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Dialogue: February 17 - 23, 2007
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9/11 and tooty-fruity conspiracy theories

by James B.

February 23, 2007
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Even now the USA is being destroyed intentionally. Even now the air is being poisoned (Look up sometime) The food is poisoned. The minds are being turned to mush. Many are starting to become sick. Soon the economy will drop out and many will starve. ... MORE ...

James B.



Senate roll call of death

by E13

February 23, 2007
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46 of 49 nations OK ban on cluster bombs

The bill was " To protect civilian lives from unexploded cluster munitions."

Voting Nope, don't protect civilians, were:

Senator Hillary Clinton
Senator Joseph Biden
Senator Evan Bayh
Senator Chris Dodd
Senator Daniel Inouye
Senator Mary Landrieu
Senator Frank Lautenberg
Senator Joe Lieberman
Senator Blanche Lincoln
Senator Joseph Schumer
Senator Jay Rockefeller
Senator Ben Nelson
Senator Bill Nelson
Senator Mark Pryor
Senator Ken Salazar

All the other Democrats, including Kerry and Obama voted FOR the resolution. All the Republicans voted against it with the Democrats listed above.

E13



Terrorists everywhere

by UselessEater

February 23, 2007
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Re Bush-Cheney administration still lying about terrorism arrests
 
Excerpt: Federal prosecutors counted immigration violations, marriage fraud and drug trafficking among anti-terror cases in the four years after 9/11 even though no evidence linked them to terror activity, a Justice Department audit said Tuesday.

Yeah ok, but are these 'terrorists' still in jail?

Useless Eater
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Steal this idea ... please!

by Melinda R.

February 23, 2007
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Re If you want your America back

First of all, thank you for actually coming up with an idea, something to get our ol' progressive noodles a-spinnin' about how we can best extract our Democracy from the jaws of the pet goat and his evil-doers.

The problem with planning a massive demonstration is that the corporate-owned media, including NPR and PBS, will find a way to distort the coverage or avoid it all together. The media has learned a lot from the 70s and I believe we now need to come up with creative new ideas for our times.

Here's an idea off the top of my head

Each and every American household fed up with the fact that we are living in a perpetual state of war can make ourselves a large sign and display it prominently in our front window. Neighborhoods and communities can schedule sign-making parties. Some neighbors can commit to construct a sign for a family that does not have the time or resources to make one on their own. There's always the bumper sticker idea for the mobile set, and even the freeway blogger could get involved. It wouldn't take long and Americans would want to be jumping on the 20% bandwagon. This kind of a project could be a lead-up to a massive demonstration. By that time, with so many signs having met so many eyeballs, would the media dare lie to us about what was going on?

Many of the progressive bloggers seem stuck in the "...and here's even more proof" mode. We don't need any more proof, damn it! Now is the time for creative ideas and the strong progressive leadership necessary to carry them out.

Thanks again for the article. And in the combined spirit of both Abbie Hoffman and Rodney Dangerfield, I would ask that you do me a favor and, "Steal this idea...please!"

Melinda R.
 
I'll forward your note along to the author, and I like the idea.

I'm often talking to strangers about this criminal government, but I'm introverted by nature so that isn't easy for me. I have to be in the right mood and frame of mind to strike up a conversation with strangers. But signs and stickers, that's a much easier method. I get a little psychological boost every time I see an "Impeach Bush" sign in someone's front yard or living room window, or a similar bumper sticker on the road. Great idea!

And for apartment dwellers like us, if your landlord won't allow a yard sign, how about making a small sign or sticking a bumper sticker on nearby telephone poles?


Helen & Harry

Melinda R. responds
 



Election watch

by Pavel C.

February 23, 2007
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John Edwards is now marginalized on TV. The pundits are focused solely on Hillary and Obama. Neither one can win, though Obama's odds are far superior to Hillary's. IMO.

I liked Edwards more than Kerry but the Demo machine backed Kerry and handed him the nomination. Losers.

No one will be ready to march until 2008, I think. Maybe not until 2010 :-) Therefore, I recommend putting Mr. Chuckles essay like an advertisement top right on U.N. and just fucking keeping it there. (Then when Mr. Chuckles is sent to Guantanamo we will have a martyr for the cause :-0)

Pavel C.



Just when I thought I was beyond being scandalized

by Herb Ruhs, MD

February 23, 2007
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Listening this morning to a Democracy Now segment on torture on TV I came to a chilling realization that by avoiding TV for many years now I may have completely lost contact with the TV nation that surrounds me. I have become a "stranger in a strange land" where egregious acts of cruelty by supposed "good guys," that viewers are meant identify with, have become a casually accepted aspect of life. Credible witnesses on the show described soldiers in Iraq imitating what they saw on the reportedly popular show "24." Life again imitating art.

We USers have indeed become our own worst enemy. We poison the minds of our children with filth for the sake of profit. What imagined enemy could do worse?

From the Democracy Now web site:
 
Excerpt: This past fall, the Dean of West Point, Brigadier General Patrick Finnegan, along with experienced military and FBI interrogators and representatives of Human Rights First, met with the creative team behind the hit Fox Television show “24” and tell them to stop using torture because American soldiers were copying the show’s tactics. We speak with two of the delegation’s members -- former Army interrogator Tony Lagouranis, who served one year in Iraq and David Danzig, director of the Prime Time Torture Project for Human Rights First.

Is Torture on Hit Fox TV Show “24” Encouraging US Soldiers to Abuse Detainees? The hit television series on the Fox Television network has a weekly audience of 15 million viewers. Each season of 24 depicts an impossibly tense day in which counter-terrorism agent Jack Bauer has just 24 hours to stop a terrorism plot that endangers the country. Faced with this “ticking time-bomb” scenario, Bauer invariably chooses torture to force suspects to divulge critical information.

Some of the torture tactics on 24 include drugging, water-boarding, electrocution or power-drilling into a man’s shoulder. In five seasons of the show, there have been no less than sixty-seven torture scenes according to the Parents Television Council - that’s more than one every show.

This past fall, the Dean of West Point, Brigadier General Patrick Finnegan, along with experienced military and FBI interrogators and representatives of Human Rights First, flew to Southern California to meet with the creative team behind 24 and tell them to stop using torture because American soldiers were copying the show’s tactics. The meeting was first revealed this month by The New Yorker Magazine.

Well the Philadelphia Inquirer reports the show has decided to cut back on torture. Not because of complaints but, they say, because it has become something of a cliche.

Tony Lagouranis is one of the former Army interrogator who met the show’s writers in November. He served for a year in Iraq. He joins us from a studio in Chicago. And in our firehouse studio we are joined by David Danzig, director of the Prime Time Torture Project for Human Rights First. He was also in the group that met with the producers of 24. We asked Joel Surnow - the creator of 24 or any representative from the show to be on the program but they denied our request.

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If you can induce someone to abandon their sense of decency and fair play you have captured their soul and done worse than merely kill them.

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An innate sense of superiority is the death of character and the beginning of a descent into depravity.

Herb Ruhs, MD



Sun Tzu, blockbuster bombs, and daisy cutters

by DanD

February 23, 2007
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Re Art of War

I've been a fan of Sun Tzu ever since I started reading the novels of James Clavel (King Rat, Nobel House, Whirl Wind) back in the early '80s and right up to when he died.

While the quotes you transcribe have mostly to do with the strategies and tactics of (more) conventional warfare (and consequently are functionally "dated" in this latest era of openly advertised "perpetual war), where Sun Tzu made his most insightful observations was not with the methods of combat themselves, but instead was "agelessly" in the realm of "preemptive propaganda." Sun Tzu basically invented "psyops" about 15 hundred years before there was even a scientific discipline called psychology. He understood that you could -- for all intents and purposes -- defeat an enemy long before the first shot is even fired.

I used to have a book on Sun Tzu until I stupidly lent it out and, from there, it allegedly got "lent out" again and "apparently" lost. As it is, I never did get the opportunity to practice any Chinese interrogation methods on the MFer who didn't return my book ... I'm absolutely certain that if I coulda' just pulled a few fingernails my book would have been rediscovered in quicktime. Ah, the lost opportunities of youth.

Anyway, I've always heard that the 10 thousand pound bomb for which you (seem to) have provided photos as having been referred to as a "Blockbuster." If you look at the area that is shown stripped clear by the blast, the area leveled does more or less appear to be about a small city block. As it is, I guess that Blockbuster must have sounded too aggressive to the "new-age" conflict-merchants of Madison Avenue, so with the next generation of bio-atomizers, they thought to "sweeten" the perspective by making it sound horticultural.

I can almost hear the PM of India wistfully placing an order; " ... and, oh yes dear, I'll take a dozen Daisy Cutters ...

DanD



The soldier prince

by Marvin A.

February 23, 2007
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I read in the internet news that England is going to send one of its' princes to Iraq along with his military unit. Are they fucking crazy????????

Marvin A.
 
Yup, they're crazy. It's all public relations -- the prince will have special security assigned to him while he's "in combat". Target practice for Iraqis.

Helen & Harry
 

And another thing. Most of the time I read the papers or watch the news on dummyvision, the enemy in Iraq is referred to as 'insurgents'.

Now I 'think' they are trying to give the impression that all of these gunfighters are coming from somewhere else. Now we and I know that practically all of these bubbas are home grown. [U.S. claims of foreign fighters in Iraq "insurgency" are mostly bogus, U.S. wildly overstated foreign fighter numbers in Iraq] That makes this whole fucking mess a civil war -- citizens fighting other citizens.

Of course the government does not want to openly admit that this is truthfully the case because then it would have to admit to many other unpleasant truths. Like every time you break into someone's house and scare the shit out of their wives and children you create one more 'insurgent'.

England saw that it was going down the drain... the politicians there saw that they would soon be selling pencils on the corner if they kept this charade up much longer. The tide of public opinion has a much stronger effect in that country. And it is easier to change a government since they have elections more often and also special elections when faith in their leaders is at a low ebb.

Here we don't have that. We have to keep the fucking rats until their term expires. They are like doctors and cops. They will always cover their own, no matter how evil or corrupt they are.

Marvin A.



Not fantasy nor imagination

by dave l.

February 23, 2007
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Re Didn't ask for this, none of it

Hello, Helen. I would agree wholeheartedly with your view which is why I am careful to let this thing stay within my own borders. However, I am grateful for the opportunity that new doors opened and hope to make the best of it. I have kept notes and details. Have discovered some things being led to such, shown if you will, unseen by others that proved to me this was not fantasy nor imagination.. Which I hope to use for further creative efforts...

Hello Harry, thanks for your comments... this fella nixon did some interesting things... he was always a little scary to me... the guy seemed a little too desperate... looking into his background and those he used about him, he seems to stack in pretty well with what prescott bush had set up for himself and his boys to follow... prescott and joe kennedy had leanings, similarities in that they were both visionaries with a motivation that would create dynasties... to me that's pretty much where the similarities end... from there they were as different as black from white, evil from goodness... all things not being perfect, however, the kennedys stood to become the greatest leaders of the 20th century... guess that's why they didn't last too long... huh?

which leads me to believe goodness is not enough, one must know his enemy as well as or better than himself, particularly when it comes from within, . to create safeguards .that would protect the evolution and procurement for future generations to come... the wolves having been loosed unto the flock, danger abounds now on all sides...

best regards

dave l.
 
Kennedy was before my time. Handsome, and charming in the old video I've seen, and near as I can ascertain his politics were less objectionable than many of his contemporaries... but I've always been immune to the serenade of Camelot, the notion that these fabulously rich Massachusetts boys were something special or spectacular, something more than politicians...

Feel free to enlighten me -- what made them potentially "the greatest leaders of the 20th century" ?


Helen & Harry
 



Counterpoint to "stinky badges"

by Rene C.

February 23, 2007
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Hello, I read your site weekly, and love it, good job! I especially love the stinky badges section, having had to deal with this kind of authority abuse a lot in the past.

To play devils advocate though, here's a story you may find amusing as a counterpoint. It caught my attention and I thought of your site right away. It shows that there may be hope yet!!!

In this story, some cop (Chief Dick Knoebel) drove past a stopped school bus with its lights flashing in September, then wrote himself a ticket for $235 and docked himself four points on his driving record.

The link to the story is here: Cop who ticketed himself reaps praise

Anyway, keep up the great site, and have a good day!

Rene C.
 
Yeah, I saw this, thanks. I wondered if it was a publicity stunt until I read in the article that the Chief didn't even announce anything, just paid the fine, and it was months before a newspaper spotted his name in the official records.

Sure looks like a good guy to me. Lots of cops are good guys -- it's only the scumbags, and the commanding officers and judges who cover for the scumbags, that we hate...


Helen & Harry
 



Out-of-control feds

by Bob

February 22, 2007
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This trend began mainly with the Lincoln regime. President Buchanan, confronted with the possibility of secession by southern states, said that while the constitution did not grant/secure any right of states to secede from the union, it did not grant the federal government any power to forcibly resist such secession.

The 2d Amendment secures the right of the people to keep and bear arms without mentioning why. The "why" is to provide a balance to the federal military power, which, absent an armed populace, might be used by a renegade president to oppress the people. But to say this in the constitution might be taken to suggest it.

Juries have the power to acquit "in the teeth of the law," for any reason or for no (discernible) reason. However, to point this out to each jury might be taken to suggest that they do it. The people are expected to have an innate sense that as they cannot be punished for their verdict, they can acquit despite overwhelming evidence that the accused is guilty.

Lincoln acted as a dictator. He suspended habeas corpus, and granted his generals power to do so. He had the governor and part of the legislature of Maryland arrested and imprisoned to make sure Md. didn't secede. Supreme Court chief justice Taney went into hiding to avoid arrest at Lincoln's order as Taney had said that Lincoln's war was unconstitutional.

The Bush regime has ample precedent for ignoring the constitution and the law. His predecessors who did it got away with it and in fact are some of history's favorite presidents, in large part for ignoring the constitution and the law.

The South is blamed for starting the "Civil" war. However, the cannon fire toward Ft. Sumter was in response to union ships coming with troops and ammunition to build up the garrison, in violation of the promise to send only food and non-military supplies until an agreement could be made to settle payment for United States property within the Confederate States. How could any nation tolerate a fort of a hostile foreign power in one of its principal harbors?

Oh, well, all water under the bridge. The United States of America of 1776-1861 is long gone and dead except in the hearts of lovers of liberty. The usurers own the nation and all its subjects, having foreclosed on the unpaid debt long ago. We and our posterity are pawned as security for the unpayable debt (which is estimated at $45+ trillion).

Thomas Jefferson asked for one amendment to the constitution: a prohibition of the federal government borrowing money. For while it might make financing wars difficult, it would by that reduce wars by 9 out of 10. And, if the people felt the country was truly threatened by a foreign power they would be forthcoming with the funds to pay for such a war, according to Jefferson.

Jefferson prefaced the above by affirming that the power to issue bills of credit (paper money) was denied the federal government. The final draft of the constitution provided power to borrow money and emit bills on the credit of the United States. The constitution deleted the phrase "and emit bills," thereby debunking the 1884 Supreme Court's opinion that the omission of the power to emit bills of credit did not deny such power, as it was an inherent attribute of sovereignty. Since when has it been an inherent attribute of sovereignty to issue bogus promises? The kings of Europe did not do so, for no one would accept them outside the king's own kingdom, and his own subjects would avoid them as much as they could. The French reign of terror forced Frenchmen to accept assignats on pain of the guillotine, but no one else would take them. The Khan forced his subjects to accept his mulberry bark "money" on pain of beheading, but no one outside his realm would take them. The Continental Congress issued "Continental Dollars," which patriots would accept, but their value sank so rapidly that everyone but the most determined patriots would get rid of them as fast as they could. They were finally paid off ten cents on the dollar, at least those that were presented for payment.

Bob
 
You sound like someone who's done a lot of reading and thinking about when and how the potential of America started slipping away. I haven't, but I do understand, from my limited readings, that the Civil War of Glory and high school textbooks leaves out a lot of the background intrigue. That the war started with Union fire at Sumter, yes, and that if you can't walk away from membership in an organization, the organization is organized crime even if it calls itself the Union.

But on the other hand, slavery.

So I can't draw the line at the Civil War, and say that's where America broke her promise. For me it's the Constitution, as ratified in 1789, with slavery, with minimal rights for women, etc.

Or more optimistically, if 1789 is seen as a starting point in a long battle to increase freedom, one could argue that America ended on September 11, 2001, as that day's events have been the excuse for the most dramatic rollbacks of freedom in my lifetime.

More optimistically still, if Bush and Cheney are removed from office and installed in prison, it may be conceivable that the damages done to America and the world over the past few years could be repaired. And I really hope so, but really, I'm not that optimistic...


Helen & Harry
 



Didn't ask for this, none of it

by dave l.

February 22, 2007
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Re Ghosts all over the place

HI nice to meet you also. Don't blame you at all for being skeptical. I understand. We have to be. I am that way myself.

I probably should have held off sending that email. I have not spoken about this stuff to anybody. Its too weird for me and I am not even sure why I brought it up. It just came out. That's not the type of thing you want to put out there especially with others you haven't really met.

But its done and yes as far as I am concerned there is no doubt in my mind I connected with jfk. This went on for a period of time particularly very heavy when it started about a year ago. However, there is another person whom I cannot mention names that I have really connected with hard [from the sixties as well] [on the other side], and because of that this other thing with jfk came thru. Probably one of the most bizarre things I have ever gone thru in my life.

Didn't ask for this, none of it, never even thought about any of it. I cannot explain any whys or how comes, all I can state is that this door opened up in the middle of night one night and I am still trying to make sense of all this and put this together. Its pretty much freaked me right out. I thought I was going nuts. Kept trying to discern the best I could what in the hell was going on. You know the mind is a receiver but damn, you have to question the hell out of things when you go thru something like this.

But I have gotten used to it better over time. Normally when one has strange things happen during sleep you wake up in the morning and go on with your life and do not think about it anymore. Not with this. It just got more intense over time, especially during waking consciousness, kind of like there is this relationship going on, only they are not here in the flesh but it sure as hell feeeeeeeels like they are.

I have never had this happen to me before. Not something like this. Normally I just go to sleep and don't even remember my dreams a lot of times.

Since this first began I have been searching for bits and pieces of meaning, the whys, what fors, and have slowly been formulating some ideas that seem to be sane, relevant, and realistic and by the by things have been coming to me backing me up supporting my ideas about what this is all about. I can honestly tell you this. Whatever this is all about... its changed my life in a big way...

I guess what really gets me is that we had this window in the sixties, to really put things together in this country, to bring all the best of everything together. We really did, to put together the spiritual, material, political, all of it. We had all the right players on the stage, everything appeared to be lining up to take the United States into the future as a genuine leader, a utopian to be perhaps, to truly lead the world, bring it into the light... and then within a matter of a few years all the players self-destructed... chaos ensued -- benevolently at first, in time more so, unseen, un-noticed, crept upon us as a slow death, a stranglehold would form, and then in the form of 9/11 sprang upon us... today we find evil to replace the kindness, benevolence, goodness of those who went before when in the sixties they offered a real salvation for democracy for freedom.

Never before in the history of this country since the era of our founders, other than Lincoln, had we the opportunity to do so much good as that heraldic decade of the sixties. What was the lesson, perhaps this... wisdom, not naivete must grow in step with innocence, lest we become sheep loosed unto wolves... best regards

dave l.
 
Nothing much to offer in response beyond appreciation for the telling. You tell it well.

But I'd offer this, for the skeptics among us: You'd have to really weird it up -- tell me that physically impossible things have happened, transcribe some despicable orders from the beyond, add buckets of sheer insanity like that -- to even begin to approach the more "ordinary" religious and spiritual things most people believe.

Helen

And Harry wants to add this, about opportunity lost:

Nixon established the Environmental Protection Agency, and his wife was an outspoken advocate of the Equal Rights Amendment. They'd be pariahs in today's Republican Party, or they'd be today's Democrats. I don't want to forget or fail to acknowledge what the activists of the 1960s accomplished, but when the war in Vietnam ended, when peace was no longer a matter of life and death, the move forward stopped and the push-back has been relentless ever since.

The current crop of bastards has taken America back to the 1940s, and they're trying desperately to get us into the 1930s or 20s, to erase the New Deal and restore the Robber Barons...


 



The troops they claim to support

by Kathy Fisher

February 22, 2007
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US 'Iran attack plans' revealed

The usual suspects are in the shadows waiting to strike! Once again the provocateurs are in place to pull another USS Liberty. Another Gulf of Tonkin, Another Preemptive Murder is about to take place. Most of the American idiots will buy it.

You and won't!

Do you know most people I speak with have never heard of a False Flag operation. They don't have any idea what it is. One administration blames another for the dumbing down of americans while it takes advantage of it!

Incredible but not surprising.

The American pResident's theme song has become ''Thick As A Brick!''

Leon was saying last night that when the German people read Mein Kampf they knew Hitler's plan and so as things played out later they could go back to the book and see things were going according to Hitler's plan, just like we can look at the PNAC and as things happen we too can see things are going to plan. Seig Heil!

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Limbaugh, Hannity and other people of same ilk should be force to cough up 8/10ths of the paychecks to the troops they claim to support.

Kathy Fisher
 
And they're so incompetent the whole world knows their attack plan.

Helen & Harry
 



The "denial community"

by Herb Ruhs, MD

February 22, 2007
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Keep on keeping on. Those of us in the denial capacity challenged world (aka "reality based community") salute you. The delusion that something still can be done will need to be pried from of cold dead hands. The "denial community" lacks one thing that makes all the difference, and hopefully all the needed difference, in the struggle for the future -- a sense of humor.

Herb Ruhs, MD



Gaza'a gazillionaires

by E13

February 22, 2007
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Each Gaza evacuee family to get NIS 1.5-2 million in compensation
 
Excerpt: The Finance Ministry estimates that the civilian-related cost the state incurred for the evacuation of Gaza is expected to total NIS 6.5 billion, an average of NIS 3.6 million per family.

The houses were worth so much? but they made sure they destroyed every tiny thing before they left!

E13



Released from Guantanamo, to Saudi Arabia

by Wig

February 22, 2007
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Bush claimed Guantanamo held worst of the worst?
 
Excerpt: Saudi Arabia announced yesterday that seven Saudi detainees held at the Guantanamo Bay prison in Cuba have been released by US authorities. The Interior Ministry said in a statement carried by the Saudi Press Agency that the seven detainees arrived in Riyadh yesterday morning. The ministry gave the names of the released detainees as: Majed Al-Harbi, Rashed Al-Ghamdi, Faisal Al-Naser, Muhammad Al-Harbi, Naser Al-Subaei, Abdullah Al-Judi and Majed Al-Qurashi.

Interior Minister Prince Naif welcomed the release of the Saudi detainees. “Following directives from Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah, the Kingdom is pursuing its efforts to get all Saudis held in Guantanamo Bay released,” he told SPA.

According to the spokesman of the Interior Ministry Maj. Gen. Mansour Al-Turki, this is the seventh group of detainees to be freed. Al-Turki said that the ministry had arranged for detainees’ families to meet the freed prisoners in Riyadh. Asked about the fate of other detainees previously released from the prison, the spokesman said that they had been tried according to the laws of the Kingdom and released.

Wig
 
I doubt there's anyone at Guantanamo who's truly dangerous, except the U.S. military commanders.

Helen & Harry
 



Art of War

by The Canadian

February 22, 2007
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Re Trying to keep my focus on the panoramic big screen

By HE, you mean Daisycutters BLU-82. They are dropped out of the Hercs. with parachutes Predecessors to tody's GBUs and to a lessor degree JDAMs.

You know, the weapon I hated most were bouncer mines. Ever rig light bulbs full of gasoline/naptha? (turn on the switch and …..)

Ancient themes indeed! Ever read The Art of War by Sun Tsu? It was thought to be written between 515 - 512 BC.
 
1. Sun Tzu said: Whoever is first in the field and awaits the coming of the enemy, will be fresh for the fight; whoever is second in the field and has to hasten to battle will arrive exhausted.

2. Therefore the clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy's will to be imposed on him.

3. By holding out advantages to him, he can cause the enemy to approach of his own accord; or, by inflicting damage, he can make it impossible for the enemy to draw near.

4. If the enemy is taking his ease, he can harass him;

5. Appear at points which the enemy must hasten to defend; march swiftly to places where you are not expected.

6. An army may march great distances without distress, if it marches through country where the enemy is not.

  7. You can be sure of succeeding in your attacks if you only attack places which are undefended.

8. Hence that general is skillful in attack whose opponent does not know what to defend; and he is skillful in defense whose opponent does not know what to attack.

9. O divine art of subtlety and secrecy! Through you we learn to be invisible, through you inaudible;

10. You may advance and be absolutely irresistible, if you make for the enemy's weak points; you may retire and be safe from pursuit if your movements are more rapid than those of the enemy.

11. If we wish to fight, the enemy can be forced to an engagement even though he be sheltered behind a high rampart and a deep ditch. All we need do is attack some other place that he will be obliged to relieve.

12. If we do not wish to fight, we can prevent the enemy from engaging us even though the lines of our encampment be merely traced out on the ground. All we need do is to throw something odd and unaccountable in his way.

13. By discovering the enemy's dispositions and remaining invisible ourselves, we can keep our forces concentrated, while the enemy's must be divided.

14. We can form a single united body, while the enemy must split up into fractions. Hence there will be a whole pitted against separate parts of a whole, which means that we shall be many to the enemy's few.

15. And if we are able thus to attack an inferior force with a superior one, our opponents will be in dire straits.

16. The spot where we intend to fight must not be made known; for then the enemy will have to prepare against a possible attack at several different points;

17. For should the enemy strengthen his van, he will weaken his rear; should he strengthen his rear, he will weaken his van; should he strengthen his left, he will weaken his right; should he strengthen his right, he will weaken his left. If he sends reinforcements everywhere, he will everywhere be weak.

18. Numerical weakness comes from having to prepare against possible attacks; numerical strength, from compelling our adversary to make these preparations against us.

19. Knowing the place and the time of the coming battle, we may concentrate from the greatest distances in order to fight.

20. But if neither time nor place be known, then the left wing will be impotent to succor the right, the right equally impotent to succor the left, the van unable to relieve the rear, or the rear to support the van. How much more so if the furthest port ions of the army are anything under a hundred LI apart, and even the nearest are separated by several LI!

21. Though according to my estimate the soldiers of Yueh exceed our own in number, that shall advantage them nothing in the matter of victory. I say then that victory can be achieved.

22. Though the enemy be stronger in numbers, we may prevent him from fighting. Scheme so as to discover his plans and the likelihood of their success.

23. Rouse him, and learn the principle of his activity or inactivity.

24. Carefully compare the opposing army with your own, so that you may know where strength is superabundant and where it is deficient. [Cf. IV. ss. 6.]

25. How victory may be produced for them out of the enemy's own tactics--that is what the multitude cannot comprehend.

26. All men can see the tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved.

27. Military tactics are like unto water; for water in its natural course runs away from high places and hastens downwards.

28. So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak. [Like water, taking the line of least resistance.]

29. Water shapes its course according to the nature of the ground over which it flows; the soldier works out his victory in relation to the foe whom he is facing.

30. Therefore, just as water retains no constant shape, so in warfare there are no constant conditions.

31. He who can modify his tactics in relation to his opponent and thereby succeed in winning, may be called a heaven-born captain.

The Canadian

DanD responds



Trying to keep my focus on the panoramic big screen

by DanD

February 21, 2007
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Re Internet trigger daisy-chain IEDs

It sounds to me like you've done more than your share of blind-side "black bagging" than the more traditional infantry types.

I remember a very few times my father let me hang out "at the office" next to the tarmac at Rein Mein, the occasional night-mission air drops I would sometimes attend at his insistence (he also wanted his "little boy" to sign on the dotted line after graduating from FAMDHS), or his own "war stories" where he would talk about the FAC work he did in Vietnam. You know all those old yarns, searching out the enemy behind lines, finding their formations in the early morning light, calling in a high-flyin' C-130 to drop a 10 ton package of HE on them ... BOOM, and there you have it, a multi-helicopter landing pad in the middle of a dense rain forest.

Anyway, as you seem to describe them, Internet trigger daisy-chain IEDs are yet just the "next generation" of more interactive, offensive landmines as they have evolved from far the jungles of SE Asia and are more circumstantially adapted to the urban battlefields and highway gauntlets of Iraq. Even at that, I'm still amazed at how little has changed from those IRA days of urban guerilla warfare in Paddyland. it all just remains variations on an ancient theme ... that theme being the multi-millennial conundrum of how to kill your (sometimes racially diverse) resources competitor.

Of course, you think the life expectancy of a platoon sergeant is short now? Just wait until some damned and condemned American Campaign force tries bullying its way through the mountainous terrain of Iran. If you really want to make money in the near future, then you've gotta' buy stock in companies that make body-bags. You'll make a killing.

References:

FAC       forward air control

FAMDHS:       Frankfurt-American Military Dependent High School

HE:       high explosive

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U.S. Congressman calls for war critics to be hung

This Congresscritter fails to include the detail that LINCOLN was dealing with a war THAT WAS ACTUALLY DECLARED. Also, the quote (that was never uttered by Lincoln) was referring to some "men" who were endorsing NOT legitimate opposition to the Civil War (of which I personally believe was a totally unnecessary conflict) but instead were fomenting the CRIMINAL CONDUCT of military desertion.

So, what is this 'critter's response to LEGITIMATE debate about an ILLEGAL military conflict? Does he say, "Let's deal with them as the law allows?" HELL NO! Instead, he's decided to go all KKK on us and declare that "we" must LYNCH all Constitutionally LEGAL conduct against the Bush junta's ILLEGAL "war." Yup, by urging the general public to go out and "hang by the neck 'till dead" any opponent of fascism who even just dares to speak out, this Congressional turd himself just became (by legal interpretation of the Constitutionally forbidden P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act) a terrorist suspect! I wonder how much he'll squeal when the noose gets slung around his neck ~

Yeah, America -- Land of the Free ... my ass.

DanD

The Canadian responds



Making debts vanish

by JR Mooneyham

February 21, 2007
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Holy cow!

For youths, a grim tour on magazine crews

I've always wondered why many of those college students peddling subscriptions at my door in past years seemed so profoundly disappointed when I didn't buy anything.

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I'm uncertain as to the utility of this item. But if true, it might be helpful to lots of folks. How to lawfully reset your credit history

JR Mooneyham
Walk Like a Kryptonian
 
Pretty interesting stuff. If it ended as I expected, with a pitch to send money for more information, it would of course be a scam, but absent any sales pitch or any way for the author to make money, the whole idea seems just screwy enough to be perfectly plausible.

Helen & Harry
 



Jim Kirwan has the gift

by Kathy Fisher

February 21, 2007
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To my Dear new friend, Jim Kirwan!

I know Leon and I get the word out and we do it fine, but that's not going to make us love and admire you any less! The way you take charge of the keyboard when you put your mind to it rocks my world!You have the gift man, you have the knack, there's no denying it. Your way with words are poetic and forceful, your determination can be felt when one reads your essays! You tell like it is and how it will be if we don't get off our lazy asses and do something about it!

I am a plain talker who gets her message out fast and clean to the tired, overworked masses and know I'm needed. I'm not downplaying myself either, I can walk into any place and break the ice. I do it all the time. I'm not afraid to speak to small or ever huge amounts of people. I've had my 15 minutes of fame more than once. My ego is small, but my message is important and that's what counts.

We are all part of the machine, each little cog just as important as the next.

*           *           *
Jesus is sitting in a bar. Three men notice and each says, ''Wow, Jesus, how ya doing nice to meet ya!'' and each buys him a drink.

After a few hours pass Jesus stands up and says, ''It's getting late and I've many places to go, will see you again soon.'' Jesus walks over to personally say good night to each one of his new friends and as he does he notices one gentleman, and says to him, ''I see you have a limp, are you hurt?"

The man answers ''It's and old injury from the war.'' Jesus touches him and says ''You're fine now.''

The next gentleman gets up to shake Jesus's hand, and when Jesus notices that he is blind he says to the man, ''Have you always been blind or was it an accident?'' The man replies ''I was born this way'.' Jesus touches him and says, ''You now can see, my son, you're not blind any more.''

As Jesus walks over to shake the hand of the third gentleman before he can touch him the mans yells out to him. "No! Please don't touch me, I'm on disability!''

Kathy



Three more

by Herb Ruhs, MD

February 21, 2007
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The ownership class hates the idea of human and civil rights.

The rich of the world are loyal to each other, not to their own countries.

The "War on Terror" is a euphemism for class war against the poor.

Herb Ruhs, MD
 
Grazi, appreciated. After a few new ideas that failed to break even, we're pretty much out of the sticker business, at least for new stickers beyond our old reliables. But I'm still thinking of spending the money we don't have to print a batch of your yesterday's idea, "The Radical Christian Right is the Antichrist."

Helen & Harry
 



Ghosts all over the place

by dave l.

February 21, 2007
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Re Do you see the ghost? The ghost sees you ...

Speaking of ghosts, Leon may already know this, but I think there were some other ghosts as well. Ole Johnson must have had several daunting his ass till he checked out. One I am certain of was for his fellow partner JFK. Did I say partner, oh I forgot, Johnson couldn't wait till Jack got his brains blown out of his head. Pictures don't lie.

I filed that original UPI photo that recently auctioned on eBay [almost bought it but there were some better I got] showing lbj being sworn in as the new acting commander in chief after the assassination aboard airforce 1. Got to hand it to lbj and his wife, they both wearing those broad smiles texans are so famous for don't you know, while jackie is standing there in shock blown away having just seen her husband's brains explode out of his head in front of her... Yep, them texans are quite a congenial bunch huh?

And To think we got old georgy boy in there now giving us some more texan hospitality... Yep, I .have been doing some communicating with JFK, on the other side, just recently working with some research and ole Jack wasn't real happy about not being able to write HIS STORY, well I think he prefers to leave out the part about marilyn monroe, that had to turn into a very ugly situation...

Anyway... the point being... ALL of us need to be real careful and get our stories out now, the truth, while we can...less they halt freedom of speech real soon... the enemy knows winners always get to tell their lies about history... and man ole man isn't our history books just full of 'em... IMAGINE, if when you went to school you were taught the real truth about this life??? You know the full picture about this planet, about government, the one the nsa, the cia teaches their operatives... isnt this a great planet we live on :-]]]]]]]]]]

regards

dave l.
 
Pleased to met you and I gotta ask... Are you hyperbolating, maybe waxing poetic, or have you really been "communicating with JFK, on the other side"?

Hope it's the latter. I'm usually pretty skeptical about such things, but willing to listen...


Helen & Harry
 




Foxhole logic

by Marvin A.

February 21, 2007
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History has a way of repeating itself. In today's paper we read: "Tony Blair is expected to announce details of plans to withdraw British troops from Iraq in a statement to the Commons today. The prime minister will tell MPs that a total of about 3,000 British soldiers are leave southern Iraq by the end of 2007".

Now if I were a British soldier headed to the middle east I might be thinking that what was really said was "we have lost" and that this so called "withdrawal" is actually a retreat and that my presence there or my death is a meaningless exercise.

So why wait until 2007? Why the fuck should I have to go there at all?

Marvin A.



Against the law to doubt the President

by E13

February 21, 2007
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Republican calls for email and IM monitoring

(This is, of course, a scare tactic.... many people won't dare to say what they think about politics, politicians, the world situation, etc. if they believe that they are being watched.... Those who still dare, will then probably be confronted with a new bill that limits their right to free speech.... something like the it's against the law to doubt the Holocaust, it will be against the law to doubt the President, the Congress, it's treason to be against the war, etc. etc. etc. Democracy American style.....)

E13



Choke on your own vomit

by biggitshredder

February 21, 2007
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Fuck YOU, and... fuck YOU again, and... we hate YOUR MOTHERFUCKING GUTS TOO! and... why don't you go choke on your own vomit, OR BETTER YET... put a round in your head, MOTHERFUCKERS.

biggitshredder@netscape.net
 
With a quick Google search, we see that the same author has sent similar angry notes to The Boston Phoenix and The Exile in Moscow, Russia. So thank you, biggitshredder -- we're honored to be hated by anyone who hates these fine publications.

Helen & Harry
 



Here's a bumper sticker

by Herb Ruhs, MD

February 20, 2007
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The Radical Christian Right is the Antichrist.

Herb Ruhs, MD
 
Wow, I like that one. That's a meme I'd like to see sweep the nation...

I wonder if anyone would be willing to stick that to their bumper?


Helen & Harry
 



Ramblings of an idiot

by Marvin A.

February 20, 2007
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The Iraqi Government says it is very supportive of Australia's decision to boost its troop numbers in Iraq. Prime Minister John Howard announced yesterday that up to 70 military trainers from Australia would join troops in Iraq.

It was in the newspapers. What a crock of shit. Well anyway, it goes to show the lengths this administration will go to to put something in a good light. They made sure it was published.

They also said that that they believed that Osama bin Laden has been hiding in Pakistan. By reference meaning he is being supported there. BUT I did not see any mention of invading Pakistan... even though it supports terrorism. Same thing for North Korea. No invasion. But that oily nation of Iran looks ripe for it. Personally I believe (not just think) all those motherfuckers in Washington D.C. are in on it.

Marvin A.
 
I ain't arguing -- guess I'm an idiot too.

Helen & Harry
 



Atrocities daily

by Mr. Chuckles

February 20, 2007
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Murder, Inc.: That's the reality of American foreign policy
by Justin Raimondo, AntiWar
 
Excerpt: America is, today, the fountainhead of evil in the world. No-one is killing people faster, and with more cruelty and indifference, than the warlords of Washington. The temptation is to turn away in disgust and resign oneself to the degeneration of Jefferson's benevolent legacy into a maelstrom of malevolence worthy of Caligula.

This is powerful. Have we forgotten Abu Ghraib, the tortures implemented under the authority of Donald Rumsfeld? And how about the 500,000+ Iraqis who are dead now that would not have been -- if the Democrats had spines? I still, to this day, display the color photo of young Ibtihal Jassem after her liberation in Basra on March 22, 2003. That was an atrocity. Or to George W. Bush, a typical day at the office, a glorious day...

Mr. Chuckles
 



Bush's reality

by Siskiyousis

February 20, 2007
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It just keeps getting better. Bush's reality is going to be irrelevant entirely rather soon.

Too late to save the ice caps, and melting ice sheets make short term forecasting "too unpredictable"...

Oxymoron alert, or something.

Siskiyousis



Yankee ingenuity needed?

by Wig

February 20, 2007
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Chaos as Iraq's borders re-open

So what's new? Bush can't even control our own borders.

Wig



Now that's America

by UselessEater

February 20, 2007
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Re McCain's abortion of a campaign

You'ld think McCain would have a clue. Don't they hire outside consultants? He positioning himself as king-maker or elder statesman?

CNN lately said a Gallup Poll gives Giuliani a 60% approval rating as a Republican Presidential candidate. Or something like that.

I'ld like to see a race with Giuliani against Obama. The mobster versus the black!

Now that's America.

But I think Obama's might be too black (I'm almost convinced if elected some non-existent militia member from Michigan would kill him in act of nostalgia, but what do I know) But the Dems look pretty desperate right now and might need him. They're probably waiting to see how badly Bush fucks up.

Giulini could easily be the Republicans' idea of a reform candidate?

Useless Eater
spitting-image.net
 
Lordy, I hope so -- it's hard to envision a weaker Republican candidate than Giuliani. He was a crappy Mayor before 9/11, he's largely responsible for many of the firefighters' deaths that day, and he's got more skeletons in his closet than Tim Burton. By all means, Republicans, give Giuliani the nomination ...

As for Obama, so far he just looks like a cloud of dust to me, but there's nothing there...


Helen & Harry
 



Do you pay for submissions?

by Michael W.

February 20, 2007
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I am unable to locate on your site any mention of pay associated with freelance stories contributed to Unknownnews.org. My name is Michael Wood and I have been working as a freelance writer for three years following six years and several job titles at the Calgary Sun.

I've assumed that you do not pay writers for their submissions, but, as they say, 'never make assumptions lest ye make an ass out of the ump, who shuns you.'

This is a joke.

Thank you,

Michael W.
 
Sorry, we do it all for love. There's no money here.

Helen & Harry
 



Reality blurs with satire

by Tiger Lily

February 20, 2007
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Bush's "reality" is a satire of itself, and may accrete into black hole due to infinite self-referentiality...

TWO ARTICLES, ONE "real", ONE from TheOnion.com; both "true".

White House advisers searching for ways to ‘bypass congress altogether’

Bush cuts off diplomatic relations with Congress

Tiger Lily



Lied to about this war

by James L.

February 20, 2007
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Re U.S. Congressman calls for war critics to be hung

Rep. Don Young,

Get your head out of your butt, being polite to you Sir. To question our involvement in this war is being Patriotic. And has nothing to do with support of our troops.

The best support for our troops is to get them out of the situation we have placed them in. We all know that we were lied to about this war, and from this point on, nothing can be said to change that.

Too many of our fine troops have died over this lie.

James L.



Democrats are useless

by Mr. Chuckles

February 19, 2007
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I saw a headline saying that Hillary *now* calls for troops to be removed (?redeployed) from Iraq within 90 days.

That can *only* mean that she calculates that the war will continue through the election and that her stand now will accrue interest -- therefore, better sooner than later to come out for something she knows will not happen. I.E. The war is NOT going to end before Bush leaves office, and might even expand.

It isn't just Hillary though. Even the famous "left-winger" Nancy is not up to no good :-)

After House vote on non-binding resolution:
Democrats won’t cut Iraq war funding

by Patrick Martin, World Socialist Website
 
Excerpt: The real position of the congressional Democrats is expressed in their flat rejection of any cutoff of funding for the war (to say nothing of filing articles of impeachment against Bush for launching an illegal war on the basis of lies). Speaker Pelosi was adamant that no such measure would be proposed, claiming that to do so would harm the troops now deployed in Iraq.

In a question-and-answer piece published in the New York Times Friday, Pelosi declared her impotence in the face of Bush’s determination to continue and escalate the war. Asked whether the non-binding resolution would have any effect, she replied, “I don’t know that the president can completely ignore us.” Asked if the House debate had moved Bush, she said, “To be honest, I don’t know if the president is moveable in terms of the course of action he wants to take militarily.”

Most significant was her response to the next question, about demands for “an urgent end to the Iraq war and asking Congress to cut the funding immediately. Is that a bad idea?”

“Why would it be a bad idea not to support our troops?” she said-rephrasing a funding cutoff as an attack on the soldiers. “They are in harm’s way,” she continued. “We have to protect them.”

It is a demonstration of the entirely artificial and false character of “official” US politics that sending hundreds if not thousands more soldiers to their deaths is hailed as “support,” while removing them from the battlefield and returning them safely to their families is denounced as “undermining the troops.”

Rhetorical games. Really, "protecting" the troops means bring them home, to safety. Not leaving them sweating their asses off in another sweltering Iraq summer while dodging bullets, IEDs and incurable skin rashes...

Pelosi is a lying sack of shit. She doesn't believe the words she is saying, that is totally obvious.

Mr. Chuckles



McCain's abortion of a campaign

by Joerg C.

February 19, 2007
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McCain: Roe v. Wade should be overturned

What a true maverick!

Joerg C.
 
I don't believe any poll that suggests McCain has a serious chance at the Presidency. Americans aren't that stupid or cruel.

Helen & Harry

UselessEater responds
 



Sharing dreams brings oneness with the world

by Kathy Fisher

February 19, 2007
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I am no longer a body of solid mass. I have been turned into a mist of translucent powder particles, but at the same time I feel elongated, like my hands and body are growing, stretching. I rise like a giant into the highest part of what seems like sky going right up to the stars slowly rising. ... MORE ...


Americans are responsible for their own behavior

by Daniel B.

February 19, 2007
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Re Hate 'the elite' -- but first, know who they are

I'm glad to hear liberals opposed to Big Brother! We need freedom, and I appreciate the Left fighting the Bush administration. As a member of the Constitution Party, I voted against the Republicans last Nov. 7. What can we do? We can support human rights. For example, I plan on one child, and adoption. When Americans realize they are responsible for their own behavior, the war machine will go bankrupt. People will stop eating meat, driving oversized cars, live in oversized homes and oversized appliances. We can have small families, and adopt child from poor nations. It is easy to support human rights in poor countries. Africa possesses commodities, such as diamonds, petroleum and gold. We can exchange commodities for food, and everyone benefits.

Daniel B.
 
I'd never belittle the little things. Everybody ought to do what they can do to make the world a better place. We're childless by choice, we do virtually all our shopping at an employee-owned grocery, we recycle, we do a few other things that make us good people, and we cheerfully recommend others do the same. It's all good for the conscience and good for the world.

But it's not going to add up to much until the world gets some sane leadership, pretty dang quick.


Helen & Harry
 



Iraq vs American regional hegemony

by The Canadian

February 19, 2007
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Re America's fighting force infrastructure

Yes, Iraq focused insurgency forces adapt very well. Their tactics are much like the principles I was taught: learn, adapt, overcome.

If the enemy uses high tech, dumb down your response etc...

Your other previous comments concerning who's playing in Iraq are perceptive and correct. This is not a war about "freedom and democracy"; this is a war played out in Iraq against American regional hegemony.

The Canadian



Surge in the slaughter

by E13

February 19, 2007
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Bomb kills four in central Baghdad

Explosions rattle Baghdad neighborhoods

(Well, the surge DID work for one and a half days, the Iraqis must feel really secure now.)

Sulaiman Paik. These two showed signs of torture. Not news?

Security developments in Iraq, Feb 18

This, over the week end in addition to the 60 dead and 150 wounded.

On Monday morning, a string of bombings rocked Baghdad.... and a bomb killed 4 in Baghdad.... but that was before 9:00 am Iraq time..... the day is young.

E13



Morality does not exist in their corporate quest

by Patt H.

February 19, 2007
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Re Hate 'the elite' -- but first, know who they are

All part of the NeoCON/Bu$h PNAC Plan ... Bush's Grand Game: A "PNAC Primer" . . . . . There were a number of us writing about PNAC three years ago -- William Rivers Pitt, ... Crisis Papers editors, Partridge & Weiner, are available for public ...www.crisispapers.org/essays6w/PNAC.htm Just in case some think all Americans are naďve -- unaware of the results their actions -- read, for example, Ralph Peter's article, Constant Conflict in the 1997 US Army War College Quarterly. "There will be no peace. At any given moment for the rest of our lifetimes, there will be multiple conflicts in mutating forms around the globe. Violent conflict will dominate the headlines, but cultural and economic struggles will be steadier and ultimately more decisive." The pathological problem with the neoconservatives is that they are myopic -- unwilling to see, or hear criticism of, what conflicts with their ambition. They do not care how many people are killed. Morality does not exist in their corporate quest. -- READ THAT AGAIN ... THERE WILL BE NO PEACE .... Bu$h and PNAC = perpetual war and endless $$$ for Bu$h's war toys to line the pockets of his cronies/defense contractors!

Patt H.



America's fighting force infrastructure

by DanD

February 18, 2007
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Re Internet trigger daisy-chain IEDs

In Iraq, anyone can make a bomb

To The Canadian: This particular web article from the L.A. Times provides further confirmation as to what is generally used for IEDs. It also reiterates that -- after Rumsfeld so suicidally redefined the U.S. Military's "new" strategic focus (by incrementally bankrupting our national treasury buying up a massive gaggle of super-high-tech, OUTRAGEOUSLY costly weapons systems that are mostly irrelevant to the imperially genocidal "nation-building" tasks America's troops are currently being commanded to perform ...) -- with idiots like this devolving America's fighting force infrastructure, why would the Iranians STUPIDLY want to incur ANY kind of a change by causing a "reassessment" of targets AWAY from Iraq and upon themselves?

DanD

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Financial costs of stopping Iran

by Wig

February 18, 2007
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The financial costs of stopping Iran...

Blessed are the Peacemakers/keepers? Bush says he has no intentions?

Wig



"Bad guys" and "good guys"

by The Canadian

February 18, 2007
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Re How "spin" is used to blindside the public

I forgot my bio:

4-years rapid deploy MechInf
Specialties: lay-back long-range patrolling; all things necessary to wreak havoc behind lines

6-years: EW- LandTac
Specialties: denying use of EM spectrum to the "bad guys" and maximizing it for the "good guys"

I did some walking in the mountains after a G8 summit. I looked on my maps for likely places for forward spotters and then went to test my hunches. I found 3 abandoned Forward OPs ;-) Predictable as ever right down to the tree damage left by EWDs. They even left coils of razor wire behind....jeez Google the following key words: Yamnuska, Kananaskis Village: Juxtapose their grids and elevations.

TC



The vote against the surge

by Kathy Fisher

February 18, 2007
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So what's you take on the bill that was just past today on the hill? It's pissed off most the neocons big time! Think those Dems are feeling the heat? Or is this more BS?

Kathy
 
I've paid little attention to all the hubbub about this. Everything about this debate was predicated on the word "non-binding," so as far as I'm concerned it's all bullsh*t and posturing. I mean, I'm sure there's some PR value and a squirm factor in forcing politicians to go on the record about this issue, or any issue, but it'll have no effect on America's ongoing reign of death over Iraq, or the coming reign of death over Iran ...

Helen & Harry
 



Deadeye Dick

by Marvin A.

February 18, 2007
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President Cheney is going to visit Australia. Here is a link to an article from down under re the love they have for him:

Stink of blood money in the air -- Must be Deadeye

Marvin A.



Be neither pharmed nor phished

by Mr. Chuckles

February 17, 2007
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Time to double check the setup on your home DSL/cable wireless router... make sure default userid/pswd shipped from factory have been changed (50% of Americaners have not done this according to the article...) Send this to any friends with high speed internet!

I am reminded of the first big Vista security flaw... the OS includes voice recognition and assuming that the user has the speaker and mike "On", a successful attack merely "speaks" the command down the lines from the net into the computer! For example, "Delete c colon asterisk dot asterisk enter". Haha. According to Microsquish the user can always hurry to turn off the microphone if they hear a evil voice :-)

Drive-By Pharming Attack Could Hit Home networks
 
Excerpt: Security researchers at Symantec Corp and Indiana University have figured out a way to compromise home networks using a single line of JavaScript in a web page.

The attack, which they have called "drive-by pharming", would enable attackers to convincingly pretend to be any web site on the internet, making it fairly trivial to repeatedly phish for sensitive information, install malware on users' machines, or steal email.

"When I tried it out for first time, when I wrote the proof-of-concept, I had a moment of internal panic when I saw how easy it was to do," said Symantec senior principal researcher Zulfikar Ramzan, and one of the paper's authors. ...

Mr. Chuckles



Art Bell hung up on me

by Kathy Fisher

February 17, 2007
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I think Art should apologize to a lot of people, not only to me. I did nothing to merit what Art Bell blurted out in a moment of self-righteous indignation. I would remind Art that this is my country as well.

I regard the Bush Administration to be hostile to the people and Constitution of this Country, as do many millions of our fellow Americans, as the last election has shown. Let me remind Art that there would be no America if the Founding Fathers of our Country had taken Art's advice and left the Country because they disagreed with the other tyrant of the day, King George. ... MORE ...

Kathy Fisher



Internet trigger daisy-chain IEDs

by The Canadian

February 17, 2007
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Re How "spin" is used to blindside the public

Ok Dan D. Now that I know where you are coming from, you and I can venture into a whole different level of conversation.

Ruck-up, and lace your LPC’s. We’re goin’ to do some lay-backin’.

IR Triggers aside, (just wanted to gauge you-and you passed) Let’s talk about internet trigger daisy-chain IEDs. As you know, IR triggers are old, it is better and less traceable to rig explosives using cell phones networked to the internet. It is not that technically difficult, but you do have to know what you are doing to set up the network, and key the devices (cellphone triggers) -- think of it has “Vonage with a twist”.

Such a network gives almost unlimited reach to the “network administrator”, and literally many multiples of explosive packages could be established anywhere in the world where wireless internet capabilities are established. I could be sitting on a beach in Trinidad, drinking rum and setting off a bomb(s) set in England using a laptop.

Have you read of the use of such daisy-chain devices in Iraq ?

The Canadian

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Grow up, Herbert

by DanD

February 17, 2007
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Re JEW ATHEIST COMMUNIST ASSFUCKED LIBERAL ELITE LIFESTYLE

Your Very Own Institutional ID Label (it ain't exactly Latin):

YOUR LIFE IS CRAP, LIKE YOUR RETARDED BRAIN AND YOUR CAUCASOID DOMINIONIST FASCIST ASSFUCKED NEO-CON-SPHINSTERSUCK LIFESTYLE. YOU'RE CONSTITUTION-HATING STUPID SORRY BITTER ANGRY RAVING HOPELESS FRATRICIDAL/SUICIDAL NUTCASES.

Weren't you one of the participants in some creationist zoo exhibit that had humans sitting around in a cage throwing bananas and shit at each other? The above nomenclature was embossed in tin across the top I believe ... .

You see, ANYBODY can play that viciously ad-hominim game of child-bullying retardation.

Grow up, Herbert.

DanD



Doubting Ms Rice?

by E13

February 17, 2007
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Re Condoleezza's unhappy childhood

Is the way of "working through it" letting the Israelis destroy Lebanon, kill hundreds of women and children, make hundreds of thousands homeless, and then say "it is not yet time for a cease fire"? If the Israelis hadn't killed those 28 children, that war would still be going on.

Or is the way of "working through it" ignoring warnings about 9/11, rooting for a war and deaths of thousands with absolutely no basis, is it by lying, by always warning, threatening, blatantly wanting to overthrow a democratically elected government she doesn't agree with (or understand)?

Oh no.... I think she is a really incompetent, ignorant (PhD and all) and very stupid woman who is way over her head, who has no clue about diplomacy, and no understanding of people who live in other places, who probably got every job she had BECAUSE she was black and not in spite of it, and a woman who has discredited the credibility of the United States in a way that will not be repaired in our lifetimes.

And I would consider that little story as a piece created by some strategist, and not something that actually happened to her.

E13
 
Almost certainly. Lying is the most reliable characteristic these people have.

Helen & Harry
 



Blue

by Siskiyousis

February 17, 2007
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Re Bovine economics

And Chrysler is laying off 13,000 employees...

It is so depressing.

When we were helping other countries rebuild their infrastructure after WW2, our corps were just taking profits and letting the heavy industry plants rust away. Planning for obsolescence, and then globalization with cheap labor.

Carrying coals to Newcastle, I believe...

Siskiyousis



Not laughing at Jon Stewart

by Marvin A.

February 17, 2007
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I was sitting around the house this morning and out of habit for some noise, I turned on the TV and there was the Jon Stewart Show, and he was doing his "club the president " thing and the audience was laughing as usual.

And then I turned on the computer to look at the mail and for some reason I also plugged in the Daily Kos to see what they had to say. Listening to one, and reading the other, it struck me that the masses are being entertained by all the fucking horror that is going on. The Kos was trying to wake up people to the fucking disaster that is happening to the country, asking them in their own way to get their brains in order, stop putting these fucking mass murderers, liars, thieves, in office. And this jerkoff of the airwaves is making millions doing skits, and jokes, and in his own way taking the gravity of the situation away from the viewers' minds.

When election time comes around again, how many of these viewers will even bother to get off their fat asses and vote, and of those, how many will actually know what they are voting for? Maybe the majority of this country are just a bunch of fucking sheep?

If Stewart were as radical as he purports to be he would start interviewing other political parties more often and when he did, give them enough air time to explain themselves, as he did for Ralph Nader when he had him on. It's about the only air time these people can get.

I didn't mention Stephen Colbert's show because he is fucking worse. He likes to downgrade the other candidates to the point that they become non-entities and their views suffer in the public mind.

Marvin A.
 
No cable here, and the management at Comedy Central is too dim to envision the money they could make from offering their programming on line for a reasonable fee, so my exposure to Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert is minimal.

But I figured out a long while ago, as sort of a rule of activism, a lot of people who'll never listen to the best un-funny speech full of righteous indignation will give their undivided attention to someone who makes 'em laugh.


Helen & Harry
 




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