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Conspiracies: Speaking of spoonfed
Re Conspiracies: A progression of persuasion
Much of the information James presents is based in fact and can be backed up by official documents, experts, etc. You question him about stopping at only saying that and not giving you more proof. If a person has a real concern to look for information about any subject they can get it for themselves. I personally feel that it is our responsibility to know the truth and to investigate. Most people that start looking into this stuff are not happy to find that it is true and many of us have even tried hard to look at the other side hoping it isn't true.
It is very odd to me that people can doubt the statements of experts and highly regarded people in their fields so quickly, while basically buying what is put out by the media as if being spoonfed. Speaking of spoonfed -- this country doesn't have a clue what they are putting in their bodies or
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Doesn't it strike you as curious that huge numbers of otherwise ordinary people -- not the rich and powerful, but everyday schmoes -- can discuss the intricacies of super-secret conspiracies?
Isn't it remarkable that these nefarious groups have allowed you and so many others to know what they're up to?
Ain't it odd that such shadowy groups, secretly orchestrating world events to follow their centuries-long secret agendas, are so well-known to you, and to so many others?
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even know what real whole food is anymore. How many times do people look at the ingredients? Most of the time you can't even pronounce all the chemicals that are in it.
The media which is owned by the corporations, that in turn own The Federal Reserve have a vested interest in slanting things in their favor. Many people have lost their jobs and even their lives to stand up in the face of the things that have gone on in this country. Is the "conspiracy theory" a conspiracy? Does it really matter that we know every last piece of evidence and know for certain the minute details of how 911 went down that day? There is enough there to know our government had some involvement at the very least in letting it happen. Building 7 coming down in the fashion that it did with a couple of small fires, dropping to the ground in 7-8 seconds is absolutely ridiculous. Wesley Clark and plenty of other government people have been speaking out about these things -- are they all nuts?
We are doing the dance that the Shadow government wants us to do by throwing us bones to chew on while they push their ulterior motives ahead keeping us distracted. I agree that someone getting all the information that James offers in one bite is most likely to be a hard one for someone to swallow but it doesn't make it any less real or only his opinion. What is important? Dealing with being overwhelmed but wanting to get as close to the truth as possible? Maybe it is more important to some to choose to "believe" or not based on what is most comfortable?
President after President fought the Federal Reserve Act and yes it absolutely matters if they are printing the money as opposed to Congress. Do you think Congress would be charging themselves interest? I doubt it. You mention income tax. Do you know where taxing our income came from (which is as unconstitutional as the FED)? It was created to pay for the interest to the Federal Reserve, right into the pockets of the private shareholders. We have paid our national debt a thousand times over. Even Woodrow Wilson that passed the Act through in secrecy as he vowed he would in exchange for funding his campaign said years later he had unwittingly ruined his country.
Before you dismiss the Federal Reserve as insignificant, take a look at why our forefathers founded this country. The intention was to have small government, free speech, freedom of religion. Getting away from Great Britain was about getting away from the wealthy elite, especially bankers. This was intended to be a government for the people and a ton more people in and out of government warned about letting the bankers take over the government. A lot more Presidents before JFK spoke of the secret government. I believe the last one that did when he ran for Presidency was Reagan and he came within a 1/2 inch of losing his life shortly after taking office. He never spoke of or challenged them again.
I know a lot about the things James shares with you and it isn't any one of those things but they all fit together in totality. It is all part of the same end goal. Some are bigger players than others. You are familiar with CFR but said yourself that James knew more. Your perception is based on thoughts and feelings regarding what the group is about while James is based on researched information. You can find members of the CFR's own comments regarding their ultimate goals and you don't need to read between the lines either.
It is not about being afraid, it is about living with our eyes open and understanding what it means to have the privilege our ancestors gave us to live in this great country. It is about being responsible to know how our government is truly functioning and stand up for ourselves as citizens for our future and the future of our children.
Debby
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First off, let's understand: Media sometimes gets it wrong, and sometimes it's wrong on purpose. Nobody argues that corporate-made food is fabulously healthy, we're not big fans of the CFR, and I don't question that there was a conspiracy behind 9/11, or that conspiracies exist. What I question is only the highly improbable notion that you, James, DanD, or anyone with no connection to any given conspiracy, have figured it all out, or figured out any small sliver of it.
Those who wish to live with their eyes open should understand that ordinary folks, working stiffs like you, me, James, and DanD simply don't, won't, and never will be privy to the inner workings of secret societies and the schemes and plots of rich and powerful people we'll never meet. These are people who'll never announce the secrets that might motivate their actions, and if the hyped descriptions of their evil could be believed, they'd never allow accurate accounts of what they've done. So where are you getting your information?
Some people will buy books, motivating more authors to write more books, and perhaps James or you will write a book yourself, but no amount of reading and research will allow James or you to know how things like the Federal Reserve, the CFR, and JFK's assassination "all fit together in totality." Because they don't.
Doesn't it strike you as curious that huge numbers of otherwise ordinary people -- not the rich and powerful, but everyday schmoes -- can discuss the intricacies of super-secret conspiracies? Isn't it remarkable that these nefarious groups have allowed you and so many others to know what they're up to? Ain't it odd that such shadowy groups, secretly orchestrating world events to follow their centuries-long secret agendas, are so well-known to you, and to so many others?
Cordially, courteously, as kindly as possible: These are myths and legends you're telling yourself, and that's the only aspect that fits together in totality. For as long as humans have walked the earth, they've told each other stories to explain what was otherwise un-explainable, and those tall tales have evolved into all the world's different religions -- even the faithful of almost any religion would agree, adding only "all the world's religions, except mine."
Yes ma'am, as you say, most of America's food is processed and chemical-laden to the point it's just no good for you. It's awful and it's evil and the Council on Foreign Relations probably favors it, because they like things that make their members even wealthier or more powerful, but the CFR didn't plan or orchestrate it. Like a lot of other evils, bad food is brought to you by the greed of big business owners, greed unrestrained by any meaningful regulation, because the wealthy have purchased the lawmakers. That's one of the real conspiracies we're living through -- a conspiracy motivated by greed, and that's a trait humans have without any help from Bilderbergs and Rosicrucians.
And of course, the Federal Reserve is bad, "bankers" are bad, the income tax is bad, and unemployment is bad -- and nothing is added by pointing fingers at whatever secret society(ies) you think plotted such things. To the contrary, spouting conspiracy theories is counterproductive, as instead of hearing about the real problems of the Federal Reserve and examining possible solutions to these problems, the public hears wacky talk of treason and eyes peeking through pyramids, and most people become accustomed to simply rolling their eyes, tuning out, and assuming it's nuttiness whenever someone starts talking about the Fed.
Similarly, and certainly, a long list of questions remain unanswered about 9/11. "Does it really matter," you ask, "that we know every last piece of evidence and know for certain the minute details of how 911 went down that day?" Yeah, it matters, matters quite a lot, especially if you're going to claim, as James did, that you have "the truth of 9/11." I'd like to see responsible investigators, armed with subpoena powers, conduct a real investigation, and publish their findings without whitewash and without redacting. And people who offer ludicrous conspiracy theories (radio-controlled jets, passengers stepping off in Cleveland, missiles striking the Pentagon, etc.) do great damage to any chance for a serious investigation.
You imply that the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan was intended to frighten and silence him. And that's possible. Many things are possible. It's possible that an invisible purple munchkin broke into our apartment and stole the book I was reading yesterday but can't find today. It's possible... but not probable.
One must prune away the absurdly improbable in order to deal with reality. And dear Debby, absent the evidence you've left absent, it is absurdly improbable that some secret society sought out the deranged John Hinkley, and sent him to attempt to wound or kill President Reagan, because months earlier Reagan had allegedly uttered something about a secret government. And after all the absurdities in this scenario, the most astronomically unlikely improbability is that any group capable of pulling off such a plot would be so careless as to allow you and countless other conspiracists know what they'd accomplished.
Of course, I don't doubt that such obvious puppets as George W Bush are having their strings pulled by powerful people, people we know little or nothing about. I don't doubt that these powerful puppetmasters often know each other, work in collaboration with each other, and meet with each other. I'm just pretty sure anyone's full of sh*t, if they're claiming to know the inner workings of such meetings, or rattling off long lists of several secret groups' most famous accomplishments, or offering "the truth of 9/11," etc. I recognize the sweet scent of snake oil.
Fair warning to others: I'm growing short on patience and time, so while there may be future installments in these Conspiracy Chronicles, this will probably be my last attempt to deal politely with such crackpottery.
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