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What's their job, exactly?
I've been thinking about this for a while now, and it just boggles my mind. Why is it standard practice for the FBI, when acting on a tip that someone might be a terrorist, to attempt to incite people to acts of violence, property damage, and other acts of terrorism?
Wouldn't the FBI's job be more to find out whether they were planning that kind of thing or not? And who they might be in contact with if they are?
It would appear that the agent doesn't simply leave if it turns out the tip was unfounded. They keep trying to push for extremist action and they don't stop until they get what they were supposedly trying to prevent to happen.
I mean seriously, what happens if an agent convinces a group of people that the only way to further an agenda of peace is to move from protesting and letter writing to assassination and the gullible bastards actually pull it off? Does the agent get charged with terrorism? How many acts of terrorism happened because an agent suggested it to an impressionable group?
It occurs to me that raving like a madman wouldn't work. These guys would have to be smooth talkers to not to wind up in jail or worse when they begin with their suggestions. It might even be the case that an agent is so practiced or skilled in the art of subterfuge and the science of convincing others of their point of view that they can turn patriots into pariahs. That's a scary thought.
It would be horrifically ironic if Al-Qaeda's biggest recruiter was the FBI. It's almost as scary to look at the other half of the equation. What kind of faith will people have in the justice system if they call the police on a guy overtly suggesting terrorism and nothing happens because they're the ones being investigated as possible
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This is a topic I rarely talk about, because it's hard to relate the plain facts without sounding like a nut. Anyone who's well-informed about cops spying on American activists will sound paranoid to people who aren't well-informed.
As you know, we're been real world activists for a lot of years, been to a lot of rallies and a lot more meetings. When it comes to cop infiltrations, I think we're pretty well-informed. A few times over the years, I've spotted newcomers who were almost certainly police plants at meetings, just based on their comments from the edge of acceptable and beyond. And a few other times, I've had my suspicions.
You ask, "What's their job, exactly?" and you wonder why these undercover agents continue attending meetings, or even continue making suggestions of violence, instead of acknowledging that they've found yet another peaceful group and leaving.
The answer, Chris, is that the job of an undercover agent is to spy on political groups, to let his/her superiors know what's being discussed and planned, and/or to do whatever it takes to make a bust. An undercover agent is not sent to activists' meetings to find another peaceful group, nor is he/she sent to find out whether a particular group is peaceful or violent. A cop who finds that the group he/she's been sent to infiltrate isn't dangerous is a cop who isn't doing his/her job and won't long have his/her job.
A hound that doesn't smell something is just a dog that won't be brought hunting next time.
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terrorists?
Now it might be common knowledge among established protest groups that anybody who joins up and immediately suggests blowing something up is a Fed but it might not be so obvious to others. Now, if I met someone who tried to seriously talk me into buying an assault rifle and attacking a military base I would definitely be looking to have handcuffs or a straight-jacket slapped on them.
But that's just me. Other people, especially somebody hopped up on fear and FOX News, might take a more direct and drastic approach to dealing with someone they think is recruiting for terrorism. I'll let you figure out what that means yourself. What happens then? How does that get explained when it comes time to administer justice?
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Chris D.
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