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This is Bob from Customer Support

by Cassandra

July 26, 2007
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Re Fell for it

Yep, we're agreeing. If the bishop names John Kerry, then the bishop has violated Kerry's status within the church. Everyone knows that Kerry is pro-choice, just as everyone knows that Elizabeth Taylor is divorced, but it is not right to name church members who are not eligible for sacraments.

Just as an update on my last rant, I'm now on the phone w/ the computer company that lost my warrantied part when it was coming to me. In email sent this morning they claimed not to have received the part that UPS confirmed delivered on July 12. Bob from Customer Support said [when I took a breathless break in typing to you, because once they charge something, I bet it's easier to get a camel through the eye of a needle than to get that charge reversed] that it was an 'automatic email' and gave me a confirmation number that my case was resolved, but Bob did not wish to give me any name besides 'Bob from Customer Support'. His birth name was certainly not Bob, and I would not be surprised if there aren't many Bobs. Perhaps one a shift. I bet they get a lot of panicky calls due to those 'automatic emails', just as I bet the phone gets a lot of angry phone calls when it turns out the telephone people were wrong when they said the 300% surcharge was a 'one time charge'.

I will say 'Bob's English was much better than the phone company people, gotta give the computer people that. Geeze, I wish I hadn't quit smoking. Trying to deal with this stuff is gonna kill me much faster.

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Re Threefer

I don't believe - can't believe - that it was only 10% of the population who were against the Iraq war before it began. If 90% of the people I know were against it, does that mean that my friends are genius and a few family members misled? I ask because at least one of the family members tests higher than most MENSA members, and is talented at everything the person has ever tried, from art to music to physics and zoology.

Those numbers were just more spin from a dizzy media.

Or is this a trick question?

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Re Likes his McCanns grilled, not pan-fried

This gentleman believes you've been covering the abduction of Madeline McCann, a British child on holiday in Portugal. Her parents left her in their nearby room while they ate in a restaurant with friends.

He doesn't understand that the abduction of a European child is not covered widely in the US media, and probably not at all [I didn't search your site] by you. While it is tragic, it is not political.

Cassandra

  Ah, I'm vaguely aware of that matter, although the family's name didn't ring a bell.

But I still think Keith is a raving loon. He specifically accused us ("yourselves included") of some sort of shoddy journalism in a matter we've never mentioned. We don't cover individual crimes unless there's some broader political issue involved ...

Helen & Harry unknownnews@inbox.com


Million pound shit-hammer vs. the markets

by Edna Rockylblatt

July 26, 2007
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The events surrounding the stock rout today (July 26) bring to mind the famous words of the Good Doctor, Hunter S. Thompson: "Million Pound Shit-Hammer". Not only are mortgage-backed bonds of all qualities under pressure but corporate debt and derivatives linked to debt are getting crushed. Bill Gross, Bond Overlord at PIMCO (subsidiary of German Uber-Insurer Allianz SE, formerly the "Allianz Aktiengesellschaft", loosely translated in googelish as "Getting Things Alliance" :-), referred to the debt market trading failures as "a constipated owl -- nothing moving."

I suppose now is the perfect time for The Revolution... but *by* the Richies to overthrow the democratic Proletariat to restore some of the many trillions they just lost... :-) Ouch!

ANYWAY ... I guess we must expect "The System" to recover, primarily by sticking it to the U.S. taxpayer via
      a) bail-outs;
      b) lower interest rates;
      c) inside information;
      d) actions by The Plunge Protection Team (PPT);
      e) government auctions to rich people of assets seized from the poor...;
      f) tax and legal breaks; and
      g) loosing the Dogs of War, again (sigh).

I mention all of this as a pre-antidote to the steamy bullshit which will undoubtedly spew from government "tools". For example, Larry Kudlow yesterday on the fall of the U.S. dollar: "It has held up well against the Chinese Yuan." Well, yeah, the yuan is pegged to the dollar by the Chinese government, dipshit! (Jim Kramer spent the first half of his show today -- which I looked at out of curiosity -- advising his watchers to start selling stocks first thing tomorrow! Nice!)

When the Million Pound Shit-Hammer falls the crisis does not get resolved real quick, if you know what I mean. In six months Kudlow & Company might be looking back at July 26th as The Good Old Days.

The market's Million Pound Shit-Hammer is just whispering, giving us a gentle clue. It is trying to get our attention...and after this, who knows, maybe no more "Mr. Nice Guy".

Time to break out the chips and dip, my fellow proles! Heh.

Edna Rockylblatt unknownnews@inbox.com


What's their job, exactly?

by Chris D.

July 26, 2007
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I've been thinking about this for a while now, and it just boggles my mind. Why is it standard practice for the FBI, when acting on a tip that someone might be a terrorist, to attempt to incite people to acts of violence, property damage, and other acts of terrorism? ... MORE ...

Chris D. unknownnews@inbox.com


The age of irony

by Herb Ruhs, MD

July 26, 2007
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Now in the age of Irony (having transitioned from the age of iron) we commonly see things like Cheney warning people about a nuclear weapon going off in a US city after he scuttled the CIA program designed to prevent this by outing Valerie E. Wilson's covert status for petty political reasons.

Herb Ruhs, MD unknownnews@inbox.com


Water which is too pure, has no fish

by Chris M.

July 26, 2007
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Easy on the eyes, not so easy on the lake
 
Excerpt: While more visually appealing than murky or dark waters, clear blue waters may not necessarily reflect a lake's true cleanliness and health. Lake Erie, for example, was once considered to be a "dead lake" in the late 1960s because it was so badly polluted. It now has increasingly clear and pristine waters due in great part to the contributions of the zebra mussel, an incredibly destructive invasive species that entered the Great Lakes system almost 2 decades ago.

It has been able to accomplish this through one simple mechanism: kill every other living organism underwater. As a filter feeder, the zebra mussel draws in a large quantity of water each day through its incurrent siphon (close to 1 liter) and consumes all the organic matter and plankton it catches with its gills. Though this helps leave the water clear, it also robs other organisms of a potential food source.

Fed by the "Burning River" the Cuyahoga. But that river has been remarkably cleaned up also. How ever I believe there is a ZEN saying that applies here as well. "Water which is too pure, has no fish."

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The White House coup
 
Excerpt: The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D Roosevelt with the help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, who were alleged to involve some of the most famous families in America, (owners of Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hse & George Bush's Grandfather, Prescott) believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the great depression.

And if you don't think this not still a "wet dream" of the right and the elites, your not paying attention.

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U.S. Officials Voice Frustrations With Saudis, Citing Role in Iraq
 
Excerpt: Of course, the Saudi government has hardly masked its intention to prop up Sunni groups in Iraq and has for the past two years explicitly told senior Bush administration officials of the need to counterbalance the influence Iran has there. Last fall, King Abdullah warned Vice President Dick Cheney that Saudi Arabia might provide financial backing to Iraqi Sunnis in any war against Iraq's Shiites if the United States pulled its troops out of Iraq, American and Arab diplomats said.

Several officials interviewed for this article said they believed that Saudi Arabia's direct support to Sunni tribesmen increased this year as the Saudis lost faith in the Maliki government and felt they must bolster Sunni groups in the eventuality of a widespread civil war.

This of course should come as no surprise. The Saudis would like nothing better than a Sunni run government in Iraq. At best they do not trust the Shia and will do what ever they think needs to be done to counter any Iranian influence in the region.

Chris M.

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You can do something ... right NOW!!!

by Bob in Charlotte NC

July 26, 2007
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I'm asking you to consider something that could well FORCE every Congress and Senate person to move forward very quickly with the impeachment of Bush and Cheney -- A GENERAL RECALL OF ALL POLITICIANS BY THEIR RESPECTIVE DISTRICTS, BY SIGNED AFFIDAVIT OF THE VOTERS.

Imagine the total "shock and awe" that would be sent rumbling through the great halls of Washington when word were to leak out that a movement for A GENERAL RECALL was going to be started. Within one week, the force of that movement would crash against DC and the POLITICIANS WOULD BE FORCED TO PAY ATTENTION TO NOTHING ELSE BY THE RECALL FROM THEIR DISTRICTS. IT WOULD BLOW THEM AWAY AND MAKE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM SHOW THEIR TRUE POSITIONS AND ALLIANCES (not to mention catching Bush and Cheney completely off-guard.)

A GENERAL RECALL movement would work!!!!!!

PLEASE -- for the sake of time and our country -- start putting something, anything, on your website that calls for A GENERAL RECALL movement.

Thanks.

Bob in Charlotte NC

  I like your enthusiasm, Bob, but there's no such thing as a recall for federal office-holders. So you're talking about motivating a populace that doesn't even know there's a problem to take actions that have never been taken before. Seems like a long shot.

Helen & Harry unknownnews@inbox.com


Fell for it

by Cassandra

July 25, 2007
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Re In accord with Catholic doctrine

Sorry, but as a former catholic who argues this out with cafeteria Catholics frequently, I gotta speak up [but only partially] for Dominic. I agree that if the politicians go against church doctrine -- please note that I no longer capitalize either -- they are not eligible for the sacraments. I think it's wrong, but divorced people are also not eligible for the sacraments, at least in my diocese. I had thought it was only remarried Catholics who were ineligible but was recently told differently.

However, they are breaking the privacy of these politicians if they name the ones who are not able to receive the sacraments, which is akin to breaking the seal of the confessional. If it's a broad statement, I don't have a problem with it. Most cafeteria Catholics -- and I know very few completely orthodox Catholics in matters like birth control -- will vote from their own conscience. As I've previously stated, I was essentially told to believe or get out. I was out long before a prolonged harangue to come back. I'm not sure why a priest thought a confrontational approach would work with someone who had problems with the morality of the church, but stuff happens.

What the pope says and what Jesus would say don't seem to have much in common, so I take it that was a rhetorical question. An orthodox catholic would be completely outraged by it, but I doubt you care. I don't.

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Re Gibsonion

Damn it! I fell for it! Clicked on it expecting to see a bizarre story like The Weekly World News [may it rest in peace] or a series of typos.

Cassandra

  I'm going to miss Bat Boy.

On the Catholic thing, I don't think we disagree, do we? If the church says "We won't give sacraments to people who support a right to abortion", that's church doctrine and that's between the believer and the church. If they make a public statement to the press: "We won't give sacraments to John Kerry because he supports a right to abortion," then they've made a public political endorsement.

Or maybe I'm misunderstanding something. This really isn't my big issue, especially since I'm not Catholic and I don't know what Dominic was talking about since he didn't include a link or a title and he hasn't responded to our email.

Helen & Harry

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Response to Soldier's Mother

by Ann in the U.K.

July 25, 2007
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What's keeping you loyal to these thugs? What, among the many negative claims to have been made about them, have they done that doesn't matter? What among these claims will be acceptable to you, and cause you least remorse, when the -- inevitable -- impeachment trials begin, and the truth about their awful activities (which have led to the unnecessary deaths of so many) is finally, emphatically, revealed ... ... MORE ...

Ann in the U.K. unknownnews@inbox.com


Spying on innocent people yields POWER

by Chet Crumple

July 25, 2007
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Curiously, the story below about the feebers plan to recruit tens of thousands of US informants disappeared from Comrade Drudgeski's website after just a few hours. I can't even find it on news.google.com.

But old reliable, WRH had it still!

FBI to recruit thousands of covert informants

Now here is one interesting thing, besides the obvious irony that the Bush Regime refuses to even provide legally required information to Congress... is that...

The Bush Regime has been relentless in spying on innocent Americans. They had their own ROOM at AT&T to tap into the internet backbone and vacuum up *everything* that went through there. And they illegally sent out phone "NSL" letters to obtain information about thousand (or ?millions) of American in violation of the PATRIOT Act.

And they continue data-mining everyone, overtly -- we already know that the post-WWII allies use Echelon to spy on each other's citizens and swap the received intel. Plus they're building the new National ID card masquerading as new Driver's Licenses -- requiring all state computer systems to be linked. ETC. ETC. ETC.

So what is the purpose of all of this spying on innocent Americans at the very same time that they actually refuse to enforce existing laws to secure the borders, and to inspect imports, etc.???

Well, how does one recruit "informants"? With "Help Wanted" ads?

Negative. You find dirt on someone, maybe a person who has broken some law or cheated on his wife, or who is in some way vulnerable to extortion. And then you tell him he can go to Federal Prison or be exposed to his church as an adulterer, or that he can expect to be fired from his job and never work again and go bankrupt -- or he can inform on his friends, associates and family.

+95% of people will join the program. If not more...

Spying on innocent people yields POWER, not to mention $$$ (as "investments" can be made on the basis of non-public information scooped up by the Feebs, etc.) It does not make anyone safer, but the reverse -- because almost everyone has a vulnerability that can be exploited by evil, corrupt, power-crazed men in positions of authority.

Remember this. You have been warned.

Chet Crumple unknownnews@inbox.com


Swimming pools, movie stars

by Kathy Fisher

July 25, 2007
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I remarked that Cindy Sheehan is bankrupt and suggested the very richest of the left like Susan Saran-wrap who supported Cindy should give generously to her campaign.

My friend ranger suggested that if we could get ten million people to just sent one or two dollars each we could do that. So I then said...

People are too busy standing in line with people they wouldn't even give ten cents to if they asked towards well-needed meal giving five bucks a day to Lottery. this has become the way of life these days. Dog eat dog. Besides you have to remember most are living paycheck to paycheck, and are getting reamed by high prices and taxes.

WTF should any actor or actress get 25 million per movie anyway, all they do is live high and use the most of the money to get more nips and tucks (not a Lon Chaney in the bunch!) Elitism should shut up!

Kathy Fisher  (klfisher@webtv.net)

  Easy to be grouchy at movie stars' big salaries, and it's like millionaire sports stars or millionaire authors. Corporations are willing to pay these people big bucks 'cuz they think the investment will pay off at the box office or book store, but to me it makes little sense. But what do I know, I usually prefer the quirky, low-budget, far from "hit" movies and books, and I gave up on professional sports about the time that bastard Bud Selig started calling himself Commissioner of Baseball.

But I'll send Cindy Sheehan every frickin' nickel I can afford, as soon as she gets her campaign website set up.

Helen & Harry unknownnews@inbox.com


Threefer

by Randall B.

July 25, 2007
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IQ test: Were you one of the 10% -- the fucking geniuses who were against the Iraq War before it started?

Bush in free fall
by Robert Scheer, TruthDig
 
Excerpt: At what point will President Bush finally grasp the enormous disaster that the neoconservatives, from Vice President Dick Cheney on down, have visited upon his presidency? Or, to put it numerically, just how does a president descend from a 92 percent approval rating one month after 9/11 -- the highest of any president since modern polling began -- to the two-thirds disapproval score that has stalked him through the last year, thanks to the Iraq debacle, without getting the message? ... At first, the public, driven by false claims of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction and ties to al-Qaida manufactured by the neocon cabal that dominated the administration, bought into Bush's claims that the Iraq war was an essential battle in the war on terrorism. At a time when even respectable news organizations were spreading such falsehoods as unquestioned truths and most Democrats in Congress displayed the independence of mind of cheerleaders, it was no wonder that initial support for the Iraq war was nearly unanimous. Fully 90 percent of Americans backed Bush one week after the first bombs fell in a "shock and awe" campaign that neocon ideologues at the Pentagon were convinced would lead a terrorized population to embrace democracy and other purported Western values. ...

People may regard Bush as "irrelevant", not because of the media, or as posited in the paragraph after the excerpt below, because of "the changing nature of society". The best explanation is that most people believe Bush is not actually *doing* the work -- Cheney, the generals, and the political appointees do it while Bush is reprising his college career (beer flashbacks): Cheerleader.

He is simply not *there*. There is no /there/ there. He has the beady eyed intelligence of a Pomeranian, at best... He claims to be "the Decider" but if any shit happens he shovels blame to the nearest dipshit... and smirks. A blind monkey could do Bush's actual "work" (really, we could round up all of the monkeys in all of America's zoos and replace everyone in Washington with no measurable deterioration in the quality of our "governance"...)

Disfavor for Bush hits rare heights
by Peter Baker, Washington Post
 
Excerpt: "It's astonishing," said Pat Caddell, who was President Jimmy Carter's pollster. "It's hard to look at the situation today and say the country is absolutely 15 miles down in the hole. The economy's not that bad -- for some people it is, but not overall. Iraq is terribly handled, but it's not Vietnam; we're not losing 250 people a week. ... We don't have that immediate crisis, yet the anxiety about the future is palpable. And the feeling about him is he's irrelevant to that. I think they've basically given up on him."

The Flintstones paradigm
by Rude Pundit
 
Excerpt: Let's put this in terms that conservatives might understand: whenever Wilma Flintstone and Betty Rubble were about to go on a spending tear throughout the boutiques and department stores of Bedrock, they'd announce, like the cavalry coming into an Indian village, "Charrrrge it," and then go nuts. And who would have to deal with the results of them buying all the saber-toothed tiger skin coats and baby mammoth vacuum cleaners? Fred and Barney. See, Fred Flintstone would get his little gravestone-like statements from, what the hell, American Rex-press, and he'd wanna know what all his hard-earned cash at the Slate Rock and Gravel Company went to. Jesus, you work the goddamn dino-crane at a motherfuckin' quarry all day and you're gonna be pissed when your wife blows the wad.

And would you begrudge Fred Flintstone his anger? Would you say it's wrong for him to wanna know how Wilma spent the budget that he appropriated? ...

Randall B.

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An extreme scenario

by Sharon Rose

July 25, 2007
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Regarding your article "Latest grounds for Impeachment", Bush's latest Executive Order: Blocking property of certain persons who threaten stabilization efforts in Iraq

How does this administration get by with this? Since when does the President write law? I thought that was the job of Congress?

And while this executive order is so vaguely written that even donating to organizations that are anti-war could leave someone open to having their assets seized, it gets even worse... If you offer help or assistance to someone who has had their assets blocked or seized, then you could have yours blocked as well (see section [1][B][iii])!

Here's an extreme (but legal under this executive order) scenario -- Say I donate money to an anti-war organization, and, under this order, my assets are blocked... Friends, seeing that I am now unable to pay my mortgage, by food for my kids, etc... decide to raise money to help me get by. These friends are now vulnerable to having their assets seized and/or blocked as well!

Furthermore, while I'm not really a fan of Hillary Clinton, it can't be a coincidence that just two days after this executive order was released, the Pentagon announced that Clinton's questions regarding our withdrawal from Iraq "reinforces enemy propaganda". Could they use this new executive order to block her funds and impede her campaign? What about the campaign funds of any other candidates who question or are critical of this invasion and occupation of Iraq? What about citizens who donate to the campaign of any candidates that don't spew Bush's talking points -- are they subject to having their assets "blocked"?

When I first read about this Executive Order I forwarded it to everyone I know, urging them to write their Senators and Representatives about it, sadly, I doubt that it will do any good.

Sharon Rose in Tennessee

  I'll just focus on your easiest question: "How does this administration get by with this?"

The media covers for them. Run by giant corporations and interested only in profits, TV news and newspapers have presented Bush's lies without question, and reported on his crimes as if they're business as usual, without mentioning that he's committed endless acts of presidential malfeasance and White House treason that are virtually unprecedented in American history.

The evening newscast presents these atrocities as if they're routine, leaving the vast majority of Americans -- who don't have the time or inclination to follow the news closely -- to believe that these are ordinary times.

If America survives the Bush-Cheney administration, one of the first actions needed to prevent a recurrence is that the giant corporations that enabled Bush-Cheney's crimes should be stripped of the media properties.

But I doubt America will survive. The axe is already in motion, the next war is as good as underway, and the situation is about to become much, much worse.

Helen & Harry

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Bumper sticker

by Herb Ruhs, MD

July 25, 2007
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The Iraq/Iran War is just meant to squeeze the last drops of blood out of America before Finance pulls the plug.

Herb Ruhs, MD unknownnews@inbox.com


Just a theory

by Chris M.

July 25, 2007
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On fringe of forests, homes and fires meet
 
Excerpt: Lori and Don Morris had just started unpacking the boxes this month in their new dream house -- four acres, national forest view, wide open land at their doorstep -- when a wildfire raced down the stark bluffs over this high-desert town near the Nevada border.

More than 300 federal firefighters from as far away as Montana arrived, battling heat, 60-mile-an-hour wind gusts and flames bolting through 1,100 acres of bone-dry sagebrush and juniper. The Morrises, along with 200 other residents, watched helplessly as, miraculously, their homes were spared.

"Both of us were aware that these things happen," said Ms. Morris, 47, as she looked out the window to the charred hillside. "We just didn't think it would happen this fast."

This was not that big of a problem 10 or 20 years ago. Wildfires, except in the southwest and California mountains, were not that common and almost rare in the north central and north west. But now with the drought and summer temperatures getting up to the 100s even in the Dakotas, it is happening more and more often.

Of course we all know that global warming is just a theory, right ?

Chris M. unknownnews@inbox.com


Green Zone, my ass

by Wig

July 25, 2007
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Attackers in Iraq have improved aim
 
Excerpt: On July 10, a barrage of more than a dozen mortars or rockets struck the area, killing at least three people, including an American, and wounding 18. In a report last month, the United Nations office in Baghdad said the "threat of indirect fire" -- meaning rockets and mortars -- into the Green Zone had increased, adding that the barrages had become "increasingly concentrated and accurate.

Of course, "the surge has just begun" Bushies say.

Wig unknownnews@inbox.com


Likes his McCanns grilled, not pan-fried

by Keith H.

July 25, 2007
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Headlines in the USA.... McCann grilled!!

It's about time somebody 'grilled' Mc Cann, why the UK media, yourselves included, bent over and took it in without a murmur is beyond belief.

He is now saying it was only 50 yards from the place where they were boozing to the apartment. He is still saying that they 'checked regularly' on the babies. He said on US TV that 'the authorities' have condoned their behavior and that what they did 'fell within the bounds of good parenting'. You are supposed to be journalists!! Do you check these statements?

Has anyone measured the distance from where they were sitting to the front door of the apartment? Is there security video footage to check whether they even left their table once during the evening to check on their babies?

Have you asked for and interviewed the source of this 'good parenting' statement? Let's get this out in the open and see which idiot in the UK said this (if at all).

There was a statement yesterday that the 'People of Portugal' were initially critical of the McCanns but are now sympathizing and backing them! Where is the evidence for this?

They have now got a campaign manager working full time for them. Is he doing the spinning?

Why don't you try asking THE PEOPLE of this fair country what they think of the McCanns behavior. Why don't you do you job as journalists properly?

The McCanns are now millionaires and celebrities, flying around the world, meeting all and sundry, all paid for ... all on the backs of leaving three babies home alone whilst they went out boozing. Two professional highly paid people who were too stingy to pay 50 Euros for a baby sitter. Has anyone checked whether this was a routine action for them and that they left their babies home alone in the UK?

It's time for JOURNALISM, not spin!

Keith H.

  We didn't bend over and take it without a murmur, au contraire -- we took it with a chuckle, cuz I for one and my husband for two have no notion what the hell you're talking about.

But we're not asking. You get to waste our time with babbling nonsense once because it struck me funny, but we have no interest in a belated explanation of whatever's rattling in your empty head.

Helen & Harry

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War

by The Canadian

July 24, 2007
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Regarding recent US and Iranian Meetings concerning Iraq's (in)security -- I did not think it is possible to suck and blow at the same time. Still don't.

Bush cannot prepare for Peace and War at the same time.

The Canadian

  I don't know anyone who's sober who thinks Bush-Cheney are planning for peace. Any noise that sounds like peace is just noise.

Helen & Harry unknownnews@inbox.com


Gibsonion

by Zebra

July 24, 2007
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I found this very funny -- as if William Gibson channeled through to the editors:

Earthquake sets Japan back to 2147
 
Excerpt: Japanese government officials confirmed Monday that the damage wrought on Japan's national infrastructure by the July 16th earthquake -- particularly on the country's protective force field, quantum teleportation system, zero-point fusion energy broadcasting grid, and psychodynamic communications network -- was severe enough to set the technologically advanced island nation back approximately 300 years to a primitive mid-22nd-century state of existence.

Zebra

  Ah so. My dad was in Japan in the late 1980s, on assignment for his employer. When he visited stateside he always had the coolest tech toys, things I didn't see in America for years and years ... and some I still haven't seen here.

Helen & Harry

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People are getting out of line

by Kathy Fisher

July 24, 2007
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I want to now where these uninterested, self-absorbed people think they are going to run to when the shit happens. Do they think a rock will be safe enough to hide under?

You can't make these people think. It's impossible...

Let me tell you what happened to me Sunday at the local Quick Check where we like to get a fresh coffee. This store always has no less then ten people in line and most of the time they have two cash registers at work (thus the name Quick Check!) but not this time. As I got in place on line to pay for two coffees I took note of who was in front of me and who was in back. I did not go to the far left and form any long line as to not be in anyone's way. I knew who was next!

Apparently others did not. I saw a girl and her friend come in while I was on line but she paid no attention and started forming a new line to the left as another two people did after her. A man was in front of me paying for things. As it came my turn the clerk saw nothing, didn't even pick her head up. The girl in line said loudly, "The line's over here ma'am, I'm next, two packs of Marlboro Lights please."

I should have shut my mouth but as she was paying I said "'I guess I'm invisible." She said "You tried to make a new line and I was next, not you," and she left, but the clerk took me by then and another man got upset with that and said "Why don't you get on the end of the line lady where you belong?"

Can you believe this? I paid for my coffees and started to walk out and that same man said you should learn to not cut in line, lady." I said. "You should learn when to not speak and mind your own business." And he said, "Meet me outside and I'll beat your ass."

I couldn't believe what I was hearing. That's never happened before in that store, and the management or should I say lack of management was nowhere to be found, so got out as fast as I could. My husband was waiting in the car for my daughter and myself to come out. I stood there telling him what had just occurred because he saw the look on my face.

The man was not going to let it rest. He came out of the store still venting, but this time he saw there was a husband getting out of a car. At that point the idiot yells to my husband ''What are you getting out of the car for, skinny man."

Naturally my husband said, "That's my wife you're threatening, what would you expect me to do?" and a few other choice words. That's when we got close enough to the guy to smell his breath, and yeah, he was drunk.

We we all got back in the car and left him to himself. He yelled a little more and I said, "That's what you want, someone to hit you so you can lay down and call a lawyer. You are not getting it here, buddy." He got in his car and off he went. I took his license plate number down.

Some people have asked why I didn't call the cops. Well I didn't really want to call the police state on any of us, because they overreact, and someone could really get hurt these days. And lately with the cops everybody is wrong except them.

So instead I learned Sunday just what kind of revolution we'd have when the time comes. A war with each other, not against the criminals in Washington. Nope, just good ole fashioned RAGE!

I really could not believe that no-one gave a rat's ass that a women was being threatened in plain sight of them. Not one of all those people in the line nor the two store clerks bothered to say a word. I was a frequent customer, but I will never go back there again.

Kathy Fisher  (klfisher@webtv.net)

  Harry here, cuz Helen's sick and fighting is more my turf than hers. Glad you're OK. Drunks are no fun.

I never know what's the right response in such situations, but usually my testosterone kicks in and does the thinking for me. If it's my wife or me being threatened, I'll use my size to my advantage -- I'm big. And I'll put everything on the line, words, shoving, fists -- I'm ordinarily peaceful and zen, but when the "man vibe" kicks in I'm belligerent and stupid and savage.

I think I'd speak up for a stranger in a store, especially a woman, and extra especially if you're frail looking or if you're not saying anything to defend yourself.

Helen & Harry unknownnews@inbox.com


"Kill one man, terrorize a thousand"

by UselessEater

July 24, 2007
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A mix of cloying images and some that ring true? Plus the reality of American snipers and who knows what they think, what they were taught and who they kill.

American Sniper
A poem by Darryl Mason

Useless Eater,  spitting-image.net

  That's murder as art. And I mean that in a good way.

Helen & Harry unknownnews@inbox.com


Fighting for our freedoms in Iraq

by Soldier's Mother

July 24, 2007
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I am the Mother of a young Man who is fighting for our freedoms in Iraq and for our great nation's uniform. On my son's behalv and that of all the brave soldjers, sailors and Marines who are willing to do more than you ever would to risk their own lives and health to give freedom to ungreatful people like you can live in the best country the world has ever seen. To all you un-American hatefilled mockers of George Bush and America I ask only, have you no shame? God bless America.

Soldier's Mother

  You imagine that your son is fighting for our freedoms in Iraq. That's absurd. Our freedoms are endangered here, not in Iraq. Iraq has never posed any plausible threat to America's freedoms.

Your son is fighting for his life, a fight I hope he wins. And as you say, he's fighting for his frickin' uniform. To me if not to you, your son's life is worth more than his uniform.

Helen & Harry unknownnews@inbox.com


In accord with Catholic doctrine

by Dominic

July 24, 2007
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I was canning the internet, doing a little light reading on our current pope, when I foudn your article. I must say that I certainly don't agree with the pope's, and indeed the Catholic Church's, opinion on homosexuality, but you paper seems typical of protestant/liberal thinking. You criticize the pope for being a political activist, fighting for the abolition of abortion, when he is in fact suppose to be a religious leader, which implies a moral activist.

I suppose I could go into more details, but my general thought on arguments like those presented in your article, is that the pope, and indeed the Catholic Church, is making a stand on certain issues, and as well they should. Discouraging communion to politicians in favor of abortion is in accord with Catholic doctrine. Politicians who support a moral sin, have a great sin on their hearts and are not yet prepared to receive communion, and therefore it should not be administered to them.

Sincerely,

Dominic

  We've published more than one article about the Pope, and I don't know what article you're referring to.

By my understanding of American law, when a church actively endorses (or, presumably, actively works against) a particular political candidate, that church is deemed a political group and forfeits any claim to "tax deductible" status. Refusing sacraments is the church's business, but the public announcement that certain candidates are "Catholic" enough to receive church sacraments while other candidates are not, in my opinion, adds up to endorsing a candidate. It should disqualify the Catholic Church from receiving tax deductible contributions.

From everything I've read, I don't think Jesus would object to that at all.

What do you think the Pope would say?

Helen & Harry

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Talk loudly waving a nerf stick

by Beans Merkowitz

July 23, 2007
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This Zogby poll shows Bush's approval rating at 34%, but the new Congress is far lower, at just 14%!

I believe that demonstrates that the Dems' strategy of "Talk Loudly Waving A Nerf Stick" resulted in what might have been expected: the people that voted for them hate them and the people that voted "R" despise them.

Only 70 Representatives are ready to cut off funding for the Iraq War. And since funding the war is the only thing keeping the war going that Congress has control over, that means the war will continue. Probably for another decade.

Not even Nancy Pelosi, famed "liberal" of San Francisco is willing to cut of the war funding. And she strategically (not!) ruled out even considering impeachment as an option (though to be fair, if the Dems cannot get a veto-proof victory on Iraq then how could they get enough R-defectors for impeachment?)

It is as if the Dems plan to make Bush continue to lose the Iraq and Afghanistan and GWOT wars all the way until 2009. Then they plan to put tire necklaces on Republicans and light matches. But that will not fly because everyone -- except for 14 dunderheads out of every hundred -- fucking hates them.

Beans Merkowitz unknownnews@inbox.com


GuineaPig and Bee

by Cassandra

July 23, 2007
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Re Not as good as being there and Not switching

Someone has done a novel about this -- in Carl Hiaasen's Nature Girl the 'girl' of the title decides to teach a telemarketer a lesson.

Cassandra unknownnews@inbox.com


Fallen trees and gauging gas

by Kathy Fisher

July 23, 2007
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I have been trying to convince neighbors and friends to stop using lawn chemicals for a while now, and it seems like many are listening -- no, a great many have listened. Keep in mind we walk miles a day here where I live and I began taking note at just how many lawns people are letting grow on there own.

The clover's back and so are the lovely Dandelions. Some people actually woke up. The rest are simply cutting every other week, making sure to mulch when needed. I am happy to report this week and today more and more honey bees as well as 25 gorgeous plump Bumbles were very busy out there on my flowers and clover. Many hornets and yellow jackets, and my friends the Monarch butterflies. I know some of you hate those horny little Japanese beetles, but I assure you they don't bite. I handle them quite often and yes even pet the bumble bees.

Now some thing sad to report: The three 80-year-old maple trees by one of our oldest primary grade school were chopped down last week. I was outraged. They provided shade for the school and homes for the birds and squirrels. They did however leave the 65-year-old trees alone that are in front of our Avenel library, which was turned into a Day Care center three years ago...

I noticed the stupidity when I saw that they decided to do a much needed makeover on the school, which include placing several air conditioners in the classroom windows (which I might add looks like crap!). Somehow the idiots did not think about how the trees would save them/us much-needed money, considering they were keeping the hot afternoon sun from beating down on those AC's compressors. What fools! Now you can see exactly what all those beautiful trees hid, like the ugly lumber store across the street from the school and the train platform up on the hill and the closed down General Dynamics plant soon to fall to the wrecking ball and be replaced by a huge apt building or condos next year. Yeeeuuck!!

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Right now a barrel of oil is staying around 75-76. So tell me why the gas at the pump price has been going down. Any ideas? I'm in NJ and near the refineries but still the last time it went up that high a barrel we had Regular staying steady at 2.90 premium 3.10 and Super was at 3.30. For three weeks the price has been going down every three days. Gas here right now on avg is 2.53-2.69 and 3.01.

I'm watching and waiting to see what it does on Labor Day weekend. Are they trying to keep people's tempers calm before the False Flag event and the push to war with Iran?

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Ron Paul just shot himself in the foot as far as I'm concerned.

Kathy Fisher  (klfisher@webtv.net)

  Ron Paul seems to be a guy who's not allergic to telling the truth (something rare in a Congressman) so I could probably give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he really is a Christian, not just another pandering phony Christian. But libertarians don't get me excited.

I'd have a bigger problem with his eagerness to end welfare and Medicare and his preferred zero federal funding for dealing with emergencies like Katrina.

Helen & Harry unknownnews@inbox.com


Enough already

by Chris M.

July 23, 2007
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Science chief: Cut birthrate to save Earth
 
Excerpt: The new head of the Science Museum has an uncompromising view about how global warming should be dealt with: get rid of a few billion people. Chris Rapley, who takes up his post on September 1, is not afraid of offending. 'I am not advocating genocide,' said Rapley. 'What I am saying is that if we invest in ways to reduce the birthrate -- by improving contraception, education and healthcare -- we will stop the world's population reaching its current estimated limit of between eight and 10 billion.

As long as the meat heads in the Catholic Church insist on taking their 16th century approach to birth control and forbid contraception, the birth rate in those countries that are predominantly Catholic will continue to rise. Coincidentally, these are nearly always the poorest countries and the ones that will be contributing to CO2 emissions the most.

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How the JFK myth helped wreck the Democratic Party
 
Excerpt: Because of the regularity with which John F. Kennedy's name is invoked by his skillful PR flacks, the Democrats keep turning up rather anemic Kennedy imitators -- Michael Dukakis, Walter Mondale, John Kerry (with only an occasional genuine hustler like Bill Clinton popping up almost by accident) -- to head their presidential tickets. But the criteria for president of the United States aren't the same as those set by the deans of admission at Harvard or Yale, Brown or Duke. The happy snobbery of feeling culturally superior and morally virtuous that is at the heart of the Kennedy myth shouldn't be what politics is about.

This is absolutely true and most of what is attributed to JFK would never have happened it not for the insistence of Bobby Kennedy. Now you have a party of intellectual snots that are a turn off to the rank and file.

Chris M.

  Interesting. Never really thought about it, as Kennedy was before my time and I've never been a big believer in whatever it was that was supposed to have made him great. But yeah, now that you make me ponder it, seems to me that several of the Democrats' Presidential candidates in recent decades were actually running for Kennedy more than running for President...

Helen & Harry unknownnews@inbox.com


A Middle East filter

by Marie K.

July 23, 2007
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Re A most effective bullsh*t filter

I really agreed with the main point of the article on the 9/11 filter-if someone presents the Official 9/11 Conspiracy Theory as fact, strike off that source. Well, I think I’ve found a Middle East filter or the characteristics of one.

Turkey just had an important election. The results came in fast and the TV news channels had excellent graphics to explain it all. A lot of commentators and analysts offered their views. I enjoyed several hours of gripping TV. Then, I went to the Internet to see what the press elsewhere had to say. Some articles stuck with the numbers, but others went for quotes to personalize the stories. So I picked 2 of those types of articles. Actually, the first is not from the outside of Turkey, but it was so far ahead of the others I’ve linked to it. The second is not one of the better articles (its author is AP’s Bureau Chief in Turkey), but it has the characteristics of a good filter. There is over-emphasis of religion and security/terrorism, loaded terminology, and little analysis. As for the election results, it was a landslide win for the AK Party after 5 years in government. They won by a higher percentage (46.6%) than the first time--an event that hasn’t happened for 52 years.

SOME OF THE MAIN POINTS FROM EACH (summarized):

Th e reasons why AK Party won the elections

The good one: Why did the AK Party win? The opposition’s attempt to portray recent events as a “nation in peril” and their confrontational approach didn’t ring true. The voters didn’t buy the idea that Turkey will drift uncontrollably into becoming an Islamic state. They preferred the stability of a government that’s done a satisfactory job to the unknown of a coalition. The opposition didn’t offer a viable alternative. The military’s e-memorandum in April was viewed as an authoritarian “blow” by AK Party supporters. The recent “secularist” demonstrations were more about class politics than secularism. The AK Party has expanded it’s base given its “liberal deregulation of the economy.” The AK Party’s election campaign was well-run, well-funded, and well-organized. They also did their homework-they addressed the needs of individual families and the handicapped. They did positive things-they listened to people’s real concerns. Some of the new AK Party parliamentary MP’s are people with genuinely liberal backgrounds-this could bring the party more to the center. (NOTE: You are left with the impression of real people living in Turkey, which is true, of course.)

Erdogan cements power in Turkey

The filter example: The AK Party took 340 (the final count, the other two parties had 112 and 71) of the 550 seats despite warnings from the secular opposition that it was a threat to secular traditions. There was much celebrating by AK Party supporters. The failed parliamentary election of a new President, Foreign Minister Gul (from the AK Party), will have to be dealt with again. At that time opponents said his election would remove the last obstacle to an Islamic takeover, and the military threatened to intervene. Some polling stations had long lines and police officers standing guard. The country has an emboldened class of devout Muslims led by the AK Party who want Western-style reform in order to strengthen the economy and join the EU. Prime Minister Erdogan has presided over strong economic results. One company owner spoke of wanting to maintain economic stability. Many of the opponents constitute a traditional elite and have roots in the state institutions that guard the secular legacy. They argue that personal freedoms are in peril. The new government also faces Kurdish rebels. (NOTE: 24 independent Kurdish candidates won seats after some years of not being represented and the number of women winning seats doubled). A civil servant said that his biggest concern was security. The new government will also have to decide on whether to stage an incursion into Iraq. The Iraqi government has said that its Prime Minister has been invited for talks, but no date has been set. The election process went smoothly with just a few reports of scattered violence, no fatalities. (NOTE: The post of a President that has veto powers over legislation and government appointments is not “largely ceremonial.”)

For me, keeping those characteristics in mind works, and I do doubt such a source if I notice them.

Marie K. unknownnews@inbox.com


Let kids be kids

by Lance A.

July 23, 2007
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This is outrageous. Why can't we let kids be kids?

Teens facing sex charges for butt slaps
 
Excerpt: Two 13-year-old Oregon boys are facing serious sex charges for allegedly slapping female classmates' bottoms as a form of horseplay.

Police arrested Cory Mashburn and Ryan Cornelison of McMinnville and if convicted could be permanently marked as sex offenders, The Portland Oregonian said Sunday. The teens also could spend as long as 10 years in juvenile detention if found guilty.

Lance A.

  I'm not going to decide what's justice based on a brief UPI report, as there's undoubtedly more to the story than we've been told. First off, 13-year-old boys are almost certainly not going to get the maximum penalties described here. Second, most school officials are sane, and nobody sane would call the cops unless this was a recurring problem, and they'd already tried school punishments, detention, etc.

As for "let kids be kids" ... What these kids allegedly did, if they did it, is sexual harassment, and at 13 they need to know that. I'd hesitate to throw the book at them until I know more details, but I'd definitely throw something.

Helen & Harry unknownnews@inbox.com


A thingy up his shoot

by Bonethug Iranian

July 22, 2007
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Dear Unknown News:

G. Bush got a thingy jammed up his shoot. Gosh, isn't that what G. Bush and Congress have been doing to the American people for sometime now? The metaphor isn't lost on the totally incredulous. Just mostly incredulous.

So the Navy doctor guys took some polyps from old G. Bush's rectum. Five or was it six? Hmmm, with those Navy doctor guys it's sort of hard to tell if they can count. The Navy doctor guys can't count so good when it comes to that Iraq quagmire turned civil war turned war of naked aggression or is that all turned around? The Navy doctor guys are all turned around.

Golly, the Navy doctor guys MUST be all turned around. The Navy doctor guys forgot the one polyp that counts. You know, the colossally large polyp that's been growing between G. Bush's shoulders for quite a while now.

Those pesky Navy doctor guys can harvest organs from critically wounded American soldiers in Iraq and that Afghanistan business but, they can't harvest the polyp growing atop G. Bush's shoulders. Just figures you know what I mean?

Don' t they always make those Navy doctor guys America's Surgeon General? I think that is the situation. No wonder medicine and health care in America is so freaking screwed. It's Navy doctor guys that can't even harvest the one polyp that might well save us all. Stupid hacks. Get it? Hacks and surgery? Hacking surgery? Navy doctor guys hacking away at surgery? Yeah, America is simply screwed!

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Thank you. It's at this point you'll need to visually insert a proper curtsy protocol. Get it? Curtsy protocol and insert ... oh Christ! I am so goddamned funny.

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By the by -- Did you know that Wendover is the Gaza Strip of Utah/Nevada? Well, it is, and we've even got us one attitudinal Jew to wax hostile with Muslims and just about everyone else. What the hell has crawled up the asses of hostile Jews and what gives them the right to DEMAND the wholesale slaughter of innocent Muslims? Wasn't Moses a Jew? Didn't that God chap tell Moses that, "Thou shall NOT FREAKING KILL!???" I'm fairly certain, that is the case. Or, Moses was lying. Now, doesn't that just figure?

Bonethug Iranian  
Tincture, Nevada
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A few wise-ass comments on the news

by Madeline Zane

July 22, 2007
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"Magic" September Iraq report pushed back to November
 
Excerpt: The No. 2 U.S. commander in Iraq said yesterday that he needs at least until November to accurately assess results of the current increase in troop strength and operations. Lt. Gen. Raymond T. Odierno said he will participate in a much-anticipated report due to Congress in mid-September, but "to do a good assessment," he said, he would need 45 more days.

This is the danger of accepting Bush's nonsense arguments about anything. The mainstream press and lawmakers have accepted Bush's premise that they can't do anything to change Iraq policy until this magic report comes out in September. So the next step for the White House? Make sure that report is delayed until November, or January, or whenever. Who wants to lay odds right now that the magic report never comes out at all?

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70 House members promise to vote against war funds
 
Excerpt: A group of 69 House Democrats has put the White House on notice that its members will not support any more war funding bills unless the measures include a timeline for withdrawal from Iraq. “We agree with a clear and growing majority of the American people who are opposed to continued, open-ended U.S. military operations in Iraq,” the anti-war bloc, led by California Democrats Lynn Woolsey and Barbara Lee, wrote in a letter to President Bush Thursday.

Ron Paul, the only Republican to sign on to this measure, leads all presidential candidates in fundraising among members of the military. So much for the claim that Bush is just listening to what the military is telling him to do ... or that cutting off war funding is too radical for mainstream America.

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Reid withdraws entire defense bill after GOP succeeds with filibuster
 
Excerpt: After a rare all-night debate whose outcome was never in doubt, Senate Republicans on Wednesday blocked a vote on a Democratic measure to require U.S. troops to withdraw from Iraq by next spring. Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., responded by setting aside the fiscal 2008 defense authorization bill “temporarily.”

Even if it didn't work, it's good that the Dems forced the GOP to actually stay up all night filibustering, instead of letting them use a stealth, on-paper filibuster. The mainstream press has been treating the GOP filibusters on Iraq up to this point as commonplace procedural maneuvers, and mostly refused to use the word "filibuster" at all. They would report that the GOP "blocked" or "defeated" the bill without mentioning that they are actually filibustering a policy that is approved. Reid and the Senate Dems should continue to force the GOP's hand on this, so that Republicans who continue to support the war have to pay a political price with their constituents back home.

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Senate passes bill condemning Iran for fictional role in Iraq
 
Excerpt: Just last week the Senate voted 97-0 in favor of moving toward war with Iran. The amendment, H.R.1585, written by Sen. Joe Lieberman, repeats the same round of vacant lies the neocons have been advancing for quite sometime. Iranian influence in Iraq is now becoming the accepted reason among American political elites as to why US forces are failing. The Lieberman amendment also claims that Iran is providing a safe-haven for al Qaeda fighters, even though the group is allegedly blowing up Iraqi Shias daily.

Okay, guys, we'll go through this slowly so even a U.S. Senator can understand. The Iraq war was a mistake, right? Right. Now think back a whole five years. Why did you all in Congress authorize the worst foreign policy blunder in our nation's history? Because you believed the lies floating around about Iraq. And if you try really hard, can you remember where those lies came from? Yes, from the Bush administration. Excellent.

Now. What is the one and only source of the theory that Iran is playing a significant role in Iraq? Are soldiers on the ground saying this? No, it's not from them. Is it based on any hard evidence you've seen? No, of course not. Wait a minute. All of the statements about Iran attacking U.S. troops in Iraq comes from the exact same gang of idiots who lied us into the last war!

The press, THE PRESS has even sort of caught on this time around, treating the Iran lies with a little more skepticism than they did the Iraq lies. Is it too much to ask that you members of the United States Senate notice that you're getting played by the same people in the exact same way as five years ago?

Your constituents aren't even done dying over the LAST set of lies the administration told you. And here you all are ... every single one of you ... heartily endorsing the fictions that are designed to get this country into yet another lie-based war.

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White House will use Justice Dept to block any contempt of Congress action
 
Excerpt: Bush administration officials unveiled a bold new assertion of executive authority yesterday in the dispute over the firing of nine U.S. attorneys, saying that the Justice Department will never be allowed to pursue contempt charges initiated by Congress against White House officials once the president has invoked executive privilege. ...

Mark J. Rozell, a professor of public policy at George Mason University who has written a book on executive-privilege issues, called the administration's stance "astonishing."

"That's a breathtakingly broad view of the president's role in this system of separation of powers," Rozell said. "What this statement is saying is the president's claim of executive privilege trumps all."

Rep. Henry A. Waxman (D-Calif.) said the position "makes a mockery of the ideal that no one is above the law. ... I suppose the next step would be just disbanding the Justice Department."

If the White House's ultimate goal is to PREVENT Congress from proving that the Bush administration has transformed the Department of Justice from a functioning judicial system into a purely partisan organization, they're really not doing themselves any favors here.

Madeline Zane unknownnews@inbox.com


Wild horses

by JR Mooneyham

July 22, 2007
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Wild horses is a freshly posted supercar story.

I take the opportunity to include my opinion of the real life local corruption which has always plagued my hometown during my lifetime, in the excerpt below:
"That'd be bad even if the local offices were fully manned. But a lot of the regular firemen are out sick right now, and practically half the police force is tied up in Nashville, with the Calhoun case." Marco informed us. The Calhoun case was just the latest scandal to hit our local authorities. The government corruption in our little wild but impoverished east Tennessee county never seemed to end.

And just in case you're wondering, my home county is and always has been overwhelmingly Republican, voter-wise. No matter what the crooks we voted in did in office, we seemed to just vote for more of the same, come the next election."
JR Mooneyham,  jrmooneyham.com

  I always enjoy your stuff, and I'm on my way right now.

Helen & Harry unknownnews@inbox.com


Not as good as being there

by GuineaPig

July 22, 2007
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Re I'm an ugly American. Or maybe a racist.

It's very disconcerting to talk to a customer 'service' rep in Bangalore. With American representatives, I'm comforted by the idea, even if highly improbable, that I could get in my car and drive somewhere to wring someone's neck if I had to.

GuineaPig

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Welcome to Heaven, Tammy Faye

by Kathy Fisher

July 22, 2007
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Ex-evangelist Tammy Faye Messner dies at 65

Just wanted to tell you guys I really like this LADY. No, I was not a fan of her TV show, but I learned to like and respect her much later. She had guts, tenacity, and I believe she truly loved God! More faith when needed than (I'm ashamed to say) I would have. Sorry but sometimes I question the higher power, guess I'm not alone for reasons I won't get into. (I'm still an agnostic.) But if there's a heaven I would ask God to open it up to this beautiful soul, but send Jim to purgatory.

I know there will be people saying all sorts of things about this woman, to them I say, save it for another time.

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I am making the mistake of sitting here watching the Sunday spin, lie and scare shows. Yes they're coming to get us, do be very afraid!

One thing I did right this morning... I skipped breakfast.

Kathy Fisher  (klfisher@webtv.net)

  I would've been one of the people saying good riddance, Tammy Faye, if I hadn't seen the documentary Eyes of Tammy Faye, and later watched her on a silly reality show, The Surreal Life.

The more I learned about her, the more I knew that, whatever her ex-husband's crimes, Tammy Faye was a good soul. I cried a little at the news of her death, and I don't usually shed my tears for celebrities.

Helen & Harry unknownnews@inbox.com


Hold the LIHOP

by Z

July 22, 2007
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Here is one persuasive article indicating that a Bush-Cheney LIHOP [Let it happen on purpose] or Iran War is probably not likely to *actualize*:

Future shock: A deadly harbinger of post-surge Iraq
by Chris Floyd, Empire Burlesque
 
Excerpt: 'Any "withdrawal" plan that includes a "residual force" in Iraq is simply a perpetuation of the current war crime by other means. Indeed, as we have pointed out over and over here, it would constitute "mission accomplished" for one of Bush's primary aims in this war of aggression: a permanent military presence in Iraq. Client regime; oil law; permanent bases: these are the Holy Trinity of Bush's ungodly enterprise.

The political exigencies of the moment may cause some alterations in the methods used to achieve these goals; e.g., eventually moving from a massive ground force to a smaller presence backed up by the increased use of airpower (and mercenaries); or exchanging one weak "sovereign government" in Baghdad for another. But the goals remain the same; and by every indication, most of the Democrats in Congress share those goals, since every one of their oh-so-bold "antiwar" measures would give Bush what he ultimately wants: a client regime hustling to meet "benchmarks" set by Washington -- including an oil law opening up the conquered nation's patrimony to Western interests -- all safeguarded by a continuing American military presence.'

Not only would nuking SF or LA cause a terrible economic crisis that would inevitably bring about the long-foretold debt and derivatives crisis, crushing both stocks and the U.S. dollar but it would reduce the likelihood the Bush & Co. would succeed in controlling Iraq's oil in the long run.

Same with a major Iran attack, which would most likely trigger something very close to a World War, with the potential for escalation everywhere people use oil.

The high probability outcome involves the mere threat of these things being brandished about by crazed Bushites, with their foam-specked jowls and bloody hands. In this poker game their bluff is good. Who can afford to call them on it?

Certainly not the Democrats. Their agenda is guided by self-protection and self-promotion, and they hedge their bets by continuing to support Bush and the military in every way, with more money than actually requested. If or when some bad stuff happens you won't catch the Demos leaning the wrong way exposed to criticism as being unpatriotic during a newly invigorated GWOT. Nosirreeeee.

I think we must also, personally, hedge against the worst possible outcomes. Stocking up on food, buying gas cans to keep filled for emergencies, being *prepared* for internet access to completely cease for weeks or months. Shit like that. Not that anything will for sure happen, but preparation is the key. Mental preparation too ...

Fleeing civilization may be a good plan for some folks. I actually have commitments and don't plan to cut-and-run (this year) leaving everyone in my hometown to face the radioactive fall-out, should that occur. I'll be the guy with food and water feeding the hungry neighbors and spreading calm (that'll be a nice change for me!)

Ha.

In conclusion, what we have now is Bush-Cheney looking merely to consolidate their gains and to keep their stolen loot. They don't want givebacks, and part of their plan is almost certainly *not* totally destroying America, its economy and financial markets. Their masters would be displeased, to say the least. So look for a status quo outcome: more Iraq War, more heinous shit, and a nice safe pre-police state at home.

God bless everyone.

Z unknownnews@inbox.com


Who and what if?

by Wig

July 22, 2007