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Dialogue for Saturday, Sept. 29, 2007 

Global bubble, red alert!
by Stanley Manley

So cute and cuddly
by DanD

  Guns galore
by jos

Thank you, you can go home now
by Kathy Fisher

 

Global bubble, red alert!

by Stanley Manley

Sept. 29, 2007
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The Shanghai stock market has gone parabolic during the last year. In the last two years it has increased by 500%. See for yourself, these are parabolic trajectories:   LINK   LINK.

Many other "emerging" markets have had huge upward moves in the last few years. China is fairly unusual because they have a $200+ billion trade surplus with the U.S. and keep their yuan (aka reminbi) tightly pegged to the U.S. dollar -- which means that as the U.S. dollar falls in relation to the Rest of the World (ROW), so does the yuan, which makes their products cheap and supports their continued policy of mercantilistic growth. They also have high inflation, and a high individual savings rate (as much as 50% I recall reading.)

So who can figure out the future? China is unique. But that is the same thing we hear every time there is a bubble, "This time it is different."

Well, no, it never is different when it comes to bubbles. Eventually they deflate. We don't know when or what triggers it, but it happens.

Right now in China they don't even have short sales of stock, so it is hard for stock prices to correct. That means that the bubble may have already gone beyond a point that it could be deflated without too much damage. Eventually people will begin to ask for their money back, but if everyone already owns stock, who will they sell to?

I am guessing that *maybe* China's bubble can be maintained until the summer Olympics of 2008. But after that? Or even before? My worry is right now!

It seems to me that October 2007 will be a deadly, dangerous month for the U.S., and I will be hugely surprised if we don't get some serious bear action. And it sure looks like the Shanghai market needs medical attention -- the doctor prescribes tranquilizers and shock therapy, because they have gone insane over there. Really.

When this stuff happens it will be like a mile high tidal wave.

It's out there. The truth is out there! Heads up, folks.

Stanley Manley  unknownnews@inbox.com



So cute and cuddly

by DanD

Sept. 29, 2007
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Re And now there's only one

Okay, so Kathy likes to feed the animals ... 'possums are nice little buds, squirrels are entertaining, and of course stray cats -- at least those that aren't too feral -- are always willing to condescend to a handout.

But you better watch out about those 'coons. While baby raccoons may be adorable, the adult kind are very efficient predators. I knew a man up in Altadena CA who had about 15 ducks in his back yard. It was all appropriately fenced in and everything. Unfortunately for him, one of the local adult 'coons living just beyond his yard in the foothills started visiting his nice little clan of ducks and would slaughter two or three about every other night until none were left. He tried to trap it, but it wouldn't take that bait. The coon wasn't really even eating the birds it was killing, it was just killing them. Easy blood to a coon is like freebase cocaine to a crack addict.

Also, raccoons can be very vicious if they feel threatened and in any way think that they may be cornered. A fully grown, wild adult male has more than enough ability to kill an unwary human.

While everything Kathy says about her neo-con neighbors may well be true, chances are that the 'coons she saw captured were caught either destroying the garbage containers while strewing its contents ... or it took out one of those people's pets. A 'coon can summarily wipe out a small or even medium-sized dog almost as easy as it rips apart a baby duck.

I have sympathy for a whole gaggle of wild animals, even bears and cougars. But while young raccoons may be cute and cuddly, the untamed ones that live on the fringe of human communities are especially clever AND vicious. And once they've tasted the "good life" of human garbage, the only way to keep them out of urban communities in the future is to kill them ... they can't be "rehabilitated."

Kathy's lucky that she never appeared to endanger one of those cubs while the momma was around. Raccoons can attack very fast and hard when they want to, and what any uninitiated adorer may perceive as the most innocuous of conduct could yet bring that momma down on them HARD. Raccoons are peculiar folk.

DanD  unknownnews@inbox.com



Guns galore

by jos

Sept. 29, 2007
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Can't say that I consider the Unknown as an "ugly site. I go to Buzzflash a lot, as much as I go here because I find a lot in common. Both sites are easily navigate, that "ugly" is just that they both are informational sites and make it easily available. Now sure both have vastly different points of view on some things, (Welcome to America?) (The time to worry is when we agree with each other...) I like that I can find things that state something I may not believe in but tells me why the other person does without rancor.

Like gun control -- everyone argues about that and usually puts the most awful suspicions of intent on the other side(s). You can infer a lot but that doesn't make it so. I have noticed though that often (not always but often) that how one comes down on that issue tends to start with where one lives. In White River Junction a lot of people had guns mostly for hunting (or in one case as an excuse to go out away from wife, family and girlfriend wnd be away from the mess he had made of his life for a couple of days... ) and owning a gun or rifle was nothing unusual. However when I lived in Jersey City your neighbor with a gun was thought of as a threat and you were sometimes right. Not the criminal type but the fool who goes out on street and starts waving a rifle around which makes you think it is time to move away from this spot as you don't know what is going to happen. The idiots we had were never sure if their guns were loaded or not. Sort of like not being sure if you'd ever had the brakes worked on it the car...

In Vermont one of my neighbors who did some pretty stupid things with a gun had them confiscated under reckless endangerment laws. Mostly he had shot himself in the foot once and the leg twice (!) so family were worried about the kids and yeah the neighbors on either side were not so happy with him either. A slight matter of gun "accidentally" going off and taking out a window on a couple of occasions. I am surprised the cops took as long to do something, to be truthful!

Mostly though there was no real problems other than the usual stuff when you mix alcohol with wounded egos. That is bad news even at the best of times gun involvement or not! However where you come from seems to play some role in how you are come down on this matter. People seem to argue from that perspective for the most part. The truth is often somewhere in the middle though and I don't have the answer. Besides the answer for here where I am may not work where you are anyway!

I don't care for guns, I think the biggest problem with them is the same one with cars -- the loose nut behind the steering wheel. Someone I read was suggesting that Columbine and Virginia T would have been much different if the students and faculty had been armed. Sorry folks but thinking back to my school daze the thought "and there were no survivors" comes to mind, Arming the bunch of fools I went to college with would have only increased the body count. Ever see the movie Penn and Teller Get Killed? The last five minutes of that would have been nothing compared to the havoc unleashed by my compadres in the ILF (Intellectual Lords of the Future, aka: Idiots Liberation Front) (BTW great movie rent it, steal it , whatever but see it!) No I'd rather that the guns were in the sweaty palm of someone competent. Okay, that is a very short list, I know!

Well as to an Ugly site I find the beauty here is that I can navigate it and there are a lot of voices to listen to (beyond the ones in my head, gods, I h-a-t-e karaoke night...) especially ones that differ from me. If I wanted to talk to myself I would never have bought a computer. and i would be much more into karaoke.

zen hugs,

jos  unknownnews@inbox.com



Thank you, you can go home now

by Kathy Fisher

Sept. 29, 2007
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At the present rate of decline organized labor will disappear entirely in the US in twenty-five years. Only a miracle or serious political awakening, which seems like the equivalent of a miracle from this point of view, is going to reverse this trend. And that's bad news for just about all of us who work for a living. But hey, who cares, that's way way into the future around 2032, we'll all be in space suits by then, flying around in our super fast jet cars the robots built for us!

Kathy Fisher  (klfisher@webtv.net)  unknownnews@inbox.com


 
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Dialogue for Friday, Sept. 28, 2007 

Bad cop on video
by Cassandra

Your license plate at the hotel
by JS Magruder

Chalmers Johnson
by Herb Ruhs, MD

A lying, murderous, sadistic, small-minded assh*le
by Marshall S.

  A scary and unpredictable force
by Siskiyousis

The death control pill
by JR Mooneyham

Guns 'n' BuzzFlash
by Mr. Chuckles

I saw the news tonight, oh boy...
by jos

Kissed and made up
by DanD

 

Bad cop on video

by Cassandra

Sept. 28, 2007
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Why do these guys do this in front of cameras? If they're going to be sadistic, one would think they'd be a bit more discreet about it.

Cassandra 

  Well, it's best not to mention it to police officers, but generally speaking, the smarter than average kids in school (and for that matter the kids just averagely smart) don't often end up wearing a blue uniform and a badge.

Helen & Harry  unknownnews@inbox.com



Your license plate at the hotel

by JS Magruder

Sept. 28, 2007
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The article you had in the daily headlines HERE would have been frightening enough, but the following line buried well into the article really caught my attention:
"Deputies stopped her in September for driving without a license, which they noticed after scanning motel registrations from the previous day."
What? (Wait, let me re-phrase that to reflect my incredulity) WHAT?! "Scanning motel registrations?" I thought it was bad enough the cops are camped-out in the drive-thru at fast food joints looking for drunk drivers-but they're checking the motels for people without licenses...and then staking them out to see if they drive? Holy crap that's insane. Something to think about next time you think you're checking into a motel anonymously-for whatever.

So when they're not invading the privacy of motel patrons, or trying to entrap gay senators in restrooms, or posing as ten year old girls on line-when they're not doing all that stuff, they're trying to figure out who's responsible for all these drive-by shootings killing little kids as they play in their yards, right?

Boot stomping on a face forever, etc, etc...

J.S. Magruder  (whynotresist.blogsome.com) 

  We rarely stay in hotels, as we rarely travel out of town, but once in a while it's necessary, and I've always assumed the license plate number was supposed to prevent other people from parking in the hotel's parking lot, or maybe to track down customers who trash the room or steal the TV set or something. Wasn't aware I was filling out a police stop request.

Seems to me she has a valid lawsuit against the hotel. Or she would, if we had any valid courtrooms with valid judges to hear such a valid case.

Helen & Harry  unknownnews@inbox.com



Chalmers Johnson

by Herb Ruhs, MD

Sept. 28, 2007
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I have carefully read the last two books of the Chalmers Johnson trilogy: The Sorrows of Empire: Militarism, Secrecy, and the End of the Republic (2004) and Nemesis: The Last Days of the American Republic (2007). Sadly, I will probably not get around to reading the first one, Blowback: The Costs and Consequences of American Empire (2000, rev. 2004), since newer, important books keep pushing it down the list (The End of America by Naomi Wolf being the current read).

But I feel strongly that everyone should read what he has to say. Chalmers, because of his former importance in government and his academic credentials, is my favorite ring side announcer. He recently wrote a piece, entitled Evil Empire: Is Imperial Liquidation Possible for America?, can serve as an introduction to his writing for the uninitiated.

His analysis of what would have to happen to put the US back on the tracks as a self respecting nation is as piercing and complete as one could expect from a feature length article. It can be found at this link

Herb Ruhs, MD 

  We're a matched set then. I think Chalmers' BLOWBACK is his only book I've read, but we've read several articles he's written. Sharp as a tack and full of knowledge your Congresscritters pretend not to know.

Helen & Harry  unknownnews@inbox.com



A lying, murderous, sadistic, small-minded asshole

by Marshall S.

Sept. 28, 2007
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Mugabe slams Bush "hypocrisy" on human rights
 
Excerpt: Zimbabwe's president, Robert Mugabe, accused U.S. President George W. Bush of "rank hypocrisy" on Wednesday for lecturing him on human rights and likened the U.S. Guantanamo Bay prison to a concentration camp.

I don't think Bush is a hypocrite. I think he's made it clear to the world that he's a lying, murderous, sadistic, small-minded asshole. And he's never acted otherwise.

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Gunman in George Bush mask arrested on NYC college campus
 
Excerpt: A college student with a rifle and wearing a George Bush Halloween mask was apprehended Wednesday after walking through a campus of St. John's University, police said.

Unlike the real George Bush, the one with the Bush mask didn't kill hundreds of thousands, then laugh about it.

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House wants bribe case subpoenas quashed
 
Excerpt: Attorneys for the House of Representatives asked a federal judge Wednesday to quash subpoenas for 12 congressmen in the trial of a defense contractor charged with bribing former Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham.

If that isn't a guilty plea, what is?

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Court lets DeLay indictment dismissal stand
 
Excerpt: The Texas Court of Criminal Appeals today rejected the state's motion for rehearing on its June dismissal of a criminal conspiracy indictment against former U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay.

The decision clears the way for Travis County District Attorney Ronnie Earle to move toward trial for DeLay and two associates on other pending charges of money laundering and conspiracy to launder money.

One by one, DeLay's indictments are dismissed.

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Feds probe Chicago Police perjury claims
 
Excerpt: The federal government is investigating claims that Chicago police tortured numerous murder suspects and lied about it under oath, U.S. Attorney Patrick J. Fitzgerald said Wednesday.

But the federal government tortures and lies themselves. Isn't this the pot calling the kettle black?

Marshall S.  unknownnews@inbox.com



A scary and unpredictable force

by Siskiyousis

Sept. 28, 2007
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Re Right to keep and bear arms

I do not have any problem with well-made firearms. I like them as artifacts.

I do have a problem with a lot of the people who are crazy about stockpiling them, especially alkies like my father. Or one of my neighbors. Mean drunks ought not to have guns but they are the very problem at the base of the easy access to firearms.

There is probably no good solution to this problem. It certainly was not Prohibition... The lunatic fringe will always be a scary and unpredictable force in our lives.

Siskiyousis  unknownnews@inbox.com



The death control pill

by JR Mooneyham

Sept. 28, 2007
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History and Orientation

Neumann (1974) introduced the "spiral of silence" as an attempt to explain in part how public opinion is formed. She wondered why the Germans supported wrong political positions that led to national defeat, humiliation and ruin in the 1930s-1940s.

Core Assumptions and Statements

The phrase "spiral of silence" actually refers to how people tend to remain silent when they feel that their views are in the minority."
Spiral of Silence; formation of public opinion

So apparently the mass media can easily squelch dissent and cause supporters to come out of the woodwork for whatever they want at the same time by simply convincing their audience that certain ideas comprise the majority view, and other things the minority. The truth of which is which is irrelevant-- so long as the media convinces a sufficient number of us that their say-so is gospel.

And therein you have the massive decay in American society which forces like Fox News have wrought in recent years.

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Sorry if I've mentioned this to you before (I can't recall). But it's an essay I wrote a long time ago about the possibility of a peaceful and effective suicide pill becoming available to overly stressed out middle-class and poorer folks sometime in the future.

At the time I originally wrote it, I was afraid it'd be so controversial the government would come get me-- or at least try to censor it somehow (partly because it gives plenty of hints how such pill formulas could be determined). But nothing like that ever happened.

One thing which inspired me to write it was my own general malaise of the time. You might even consider this essay to be something of a response to Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged theme.

To this day it occasionally brings me email from the suffering, desperate, or lonely out there, looking for an exit... The second coming

JR Mooneyham  (jrmooneyham.com) 

  That's a pretty dang subversive idea, JR, and nope, you never sent it before. I'd remember that one.

Cripes, it would piss off so many assorted authorities, government, health, medical, religious leaders, hell, it would piss of advertisers and TV broadcasters, other medicine-makers, on and on, it's hard to imagine how furiously the powers that be would react to stomp out a painless, even pleasant death pill... It would be like the "Drug Czar" crowd's hysterical response to meth or heroin or pot, except that instead of exaggerating the drugs' deadliness the anti-drug addicts would finally be telling the truth.

But yeah, definitely, the job picture would be rosy and the rent on my apartment might go way down, if my landlord wasn't dead and his property in slow legal limbo awaiting a judge who wasn't dead too ...

They call suicide the coward's way out, but it's always struck me as something that would take a lot of courage ... courage of a certain kind I've always thankfully lacked.

Helen & Harry  unknownnews@inbox.com



Guns 'n' BuzzFlash

by Mr. Chuckles

Sept. 28, 2007
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Re Right to keep and bear arms

Well, disarming Americans is one of the top priorities for buzzflash.com. It is on-going, continuous, and puzzling. I go to drudge, rawstory, buzzflash and wrh daily for breaking news/stories of interest and so I *know* this about buzzflash. I even wrote to them once pointing out the backwardness of alienating independents and republican voters by the constant anti-gun/self-defense advocacy.

For example, from 22:01 EDT on 26-Sep-2007 at buzzflash.com...A deluge of rabid anti-gun, disarm Americans "news". I cannot comprehend their program. If they desire to drive away Republicans and Independents from voting against the GOP/Bush regime, this is exactly how not to do it.

Of Illegal Steroid Dealers and .50 Caliber Sniper Rifles
(they wuv gunguys.com :-)

AND Freedom States Alliance applauds the remarkable outreach and media campaign by our affiliate, Ceasefire New Jersey, for its recent campaign to stop the flow of illegal guns being trafficked into the Garden State, mostly from Pennsylvania.

AND Crazy Wisconsin State Rep. Frank 'I Wanna Arm Teachers in Schools' Lasee, Just Got a Little Bit Crazier

AND Gun Sales are Going Pink

AND America's Shooting Gallery

AND The Third Annual Come Together to Free America from Gun Violence Auction. Donate to It Now.

AND Ceasefire New Jersey & Prosecutors: Stop Illegal Guns Being Trafficked from Pennsylvania

AND The New Giuliani: I am the NRA

AND Il Duce Giuliani Courts the NRA After Switching from a Gun Control Proponent. What an Opportunist.

AND California Condors Near Extinction Due to Poisoning from Lead Ammunition:: "Just so we're clear, the gun lobby would rather allow the California Condor to become extinct rather than stop using lead ammunition because they believe changing the type of bullets that are available will be a back door campaign to banning hunting."

AND Rudy at the NRA: Cellphones Don't Kill Candidates, Moronic Candidates Do

Mr. Chuckles 

  Maybe somebody at BuzzFlash lost a loved one to gun violence or something. Sure sounds like they've got a bug up their butts about that issue.

Are there any Democrats in Congress who harp on gun control? It's a serious question, I don't know the answer, I just can't think of any...

Off-topic: Our website's ugly as sin, we've been told, so maybe I should disqualify myself from saying this, but I've always found BuzzFlash visually ugly and too often interrupted by begging to be a part of my surf cycle. I check out individual BuzzFlash pages when someone sends a link there, but it's been years since I've gone there for news.

Helen & Harry  unknownnews@inbox.com



I saw the news tonight, oh boy...

by jos

Sept. 28, 2007
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Well as usual humans here seem to be on the cusp of either establishing utopia or wiping themselves and much of the other species they cohabit with off the face of this world.

Situation normal -- all f***ed up.

Loved Bush's speech for renewing "no child left behind". I mean after all how many people can pull off saying "childrens do learn" or some similar dreck? None... exactly none. Of course that not left behind not so much reflects his supersti... I mean his moral and religious views as a something those recruiters chant before they go out to the malls and schools to meet the kids.

Shouldn't they show up on those "Predator" shows? Talk about child abuse!

The dumercratic candidates can't say the troops could be out before 2013, if then. The repugnicans must be savoring across heir jowls on that one. I am so thinking of voting Socialist just to piss someone off. Don't necessarily care who either. If they win though I expect they'd just be too drunk these coming four years for it to matter. Come to think of it being voted in might be a good reason to go on an extended bender, hell, everyone had just done them a dirty if you think about it. Also having to spend all that time in D.C.!

Yep, firewater sounds just right to block out that nightmare. Picture sobering up accidentally and the first face in focus is Arlen Spector or Vitter... omg, where's the rum?

Is it too late to join the wobblies? Is there a place in the IWW for the unemployed? Zen hugs, Praise Delores delRio and pass the bottle

jos  unknownnews@inbox.com



Kissed and made up

by DanD

Sept. 28, 2007
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Re Unknown unknowns

Well, as far as "nasty, brutish, and short" is concerned, much in the same vein as what Paul Crew told Caretaker in Longest Yard, for the most part I think your about as nasty, brutish, and short as a box of kittens. And as far as any lessons we may learn, it seems that just as long as we treat them as constant works in progress, well, at least we are making some kind of progress.

It was also apparent to me from the consequent postings that somebody somewhere had "kissed and made up."

Anyway, as all things of any importance in America seem to be getting sucked down into the abyss of despair so much faster, the "f*ck-it-all" attitude is also becoming so much more prevalent. When that happens to me, I just like to meddle in other people's difficulties. I guess this is my alternative to daytime television.

I'm glad everything is okay.

DanD  unknownnews@inbox.com


 
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Dialogue for Thursday, Sept. 27, 2007 

What matters in the end
by Hazel Burke

Pure bloody mindedness
by Chris M.

Right to keep and bear arms
by Mr. Chuckles

At a loss for words
by Marie K.

  In Bush's pocket
by JR Mooneyham

And now there's only one
by Kathy Fisher

Why do Americans refuse to get angry?
by Jafo

Unknown unknowns
by DanD

And I’m the Queen of the May
by  jos

 

What matters in the end

by Hazel Burke

Sept. 27, 2007
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's "no gays" quote is not complete, and that alters the meaning. He said "... like you have in America." Which could be interpreted to mean Gay Pride Parades on Main Street, equal rights, marriages, etc. In fact, I'm surprised if the U.S. fundamentalists don't hunger for a legal system like Iran's -- and actually, the Dominionists plan for a return to the Old Testament standards of punishment for adultery, sodomy, etc. They believe in the literal applicability of the Old Testament (not Christianity) to modern life: stoning to death of adulterers and Rule of the country by the church. Also, in many places in the U.S. sodomy is illegal...just like Iran.

Ahmadeinejad's visit to the U.S. reminds me of Manny and Prof's trip to Earth in "The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress". The media picked up on the sexual differences in their culture -- group marriage in particular -- and got Manny put in jail. In the end though, once Luna started shipping high velocity rocks back to Earth, the nonsense and propaganda became irrelevant. Just as when BushCo start WW III, it won't take too long before people start doing the math and computing their losses...

Hazel Burke  unknownnews@inbox.com



Height of hypocrisy and pure bloody-mindedness

by Chris M.

Sept. 27, 2007
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Bush to urge U.N. to fight for freedom
 
Excerpt: President Bush will address the U.N. General Assembly this morning. Bush wants the U.N. to uphold its pledge to fight for freedom in lands of poverty and terror, and plans to punctuate his challenge by promising new sanctions against the military regime in Myanmar.

I'm all for freedom but freedom also means responsibility and accountability for the consequences of your actions. For Bush to speak on freedom is the height of hypocrisy since their definition of Freedom is to do whatever they damn well please without any consequences. That is not freedom, but childish behavior one expects from a spoiled 4 year old.

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I find this article in Raw Story to be particularly ironic in light of the current Ken Burns documentary now airing on PBS, "The War".

Though it is ostensibly about how WWII affected four communities in the US, the one glaring part that hits me is how totally incompetent and arrogant the upper echelons of the military were and still are.

The only reason we won that war was the pure bloody-mindedness of those on the ground. It sure had little to do with any tactical or strategic advantage on our part. Nor did it have anything to do with military planning, which was horrible.

So it should not surprise anyone that this stupid, unnecessary war in Iraq is going so badly. And now the some clowns in DC want to go to war with Iran?? I'm speechless.

Chris M. 

  Of course, this was not your topic nor is it even tangentially related to your point, but you mentioned Ken Burns (yawn) and everybody's talking about him this week. To me, I'm a horse and he's Frau Blücher in Young Frankenstein -- every time Ken Burns flutters across my mind I have to yawn ...

Helen & Harry  unknownnews@inbox.com



Right to keep and bear arms

by Mr. Chuckles

Sept. 27, 2007
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News today is the Giuliani is supporting the right to keep and bear arms. This follows recent pilgrimages by GOP presidential candidates to the NRA.

As the #3 Democratic candidate, John Edwards should definitely attempt to woo both Republican Libertarian, and libertarian-leaning Independents and Democrats by supporting the literal interpretation of the simple and clear words written in the 2nd Amendment.

Not only is this politically expedient -- because what is there to lose, as Hillary has already been selected by The Powers That Be (including the Bush family, haha), but it is the right thing to Do. Shouldn't Americans have the right to self-defense against criminals and terrorists? In fact, courts have already ruled that the people have no right to be defended by the police; at best, police may hunt down the killers. Or not, especially killers of the poor.

I generally recommend that people buy a Taser or stun gun. The reason is, if you defend yourself with a stun gun or a Taser, the ex-perpetrator's family is much less likely to sue your ass off -- and anyway, isn't it move Christian to use non-lethal self defense measures, if at all possible?

Regardless, there is simply no reason to cede 2nd Amendment righteousness to the GOP. If your Democratic, "disarm the people for their own good" friends and associates complain, why not tell them to read the Constitution and maybe just try compromising on this one issue, for the good of the party.

Best wishes.

Mr. Chuckles 

  I don't hang out with many Democratic Party activists. Generally, the Democratic Party sickens me. But my vague, general impression is that serious gun restrictions are pretty low on the list of lies Democratic Party candidates dwell on, while hyping the fear that Democrats will take everybody's guns away remains an old, reliable lie for Republicans.

I do agree, of course, that Edwards or any Democrat who took a firm stand for gun rights would zoom way, way up in the polls -- and as a bonus, of course, it's the right position, morally and constitutionally.

Helen & Harry 

Mr. Chuckles replies, Siskiyousis replies
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At a loss for words

by Marie K.

Sept. 27, 2007
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Re Advice for Ahmadinejad

Oh, Chris M. I’m ... I’m at a loss for words. Of all of the articles and transcripts of President Ahmadinejad’s talks available these days, this was the only link you could find. As for your link, have you heard of the concept of “cultural differences”? Well, this “article” brings out one. I doubt that Iran’s president was being arrogant when he said it. Basically, what it indicates is that homosexuals in Iran are still “in the closet” as were those in the US not that long ago. Sensitive subjects and how they are handled vary across cultures as I’ve learned through the trials and tribulations of serving in the Peace Corps and living overseas for some time now. I can assure you that if you visited Iran or even France, you would come up with a few sentences yourself that could get you in hot water!

Moving on, below I explain how I approach understanding foreign speakers/writers, I provide a link to one of the transcripts to President Ahmadinejad’s UN speech -- I believe his most important speech in the US, and I offer a few of my own comments.

I’ve learned that the BEST POLICY is always to focus on the message or even just the gist of it rather than every specific sentence that is used. Those sentences naturally are going to make reference to the history, literature, religious beliefs and other beliefs of whatever country the speaker/writer is from. Actually, they ARE where all of the nuances lie -- the nuances that we will miss. Then, there is the style and organization used by the speaker/writer. It can vary from the very tightly organized style used by English speakers to the sort of flow of consciousness styles used elsewhere. Short and to the point works in English, but in other languages this is considered overly blunt and perhaps uneducated. Flowing poetic language along with many lengthy examples and quotes can be considered educated elsewhere. In other words, I aim to grasp the main ideas, take in whatever new cultural information I can, and then consider whether I agree or disagree with the speaker/writer’s main ideas as I would with any ideas I encounter.

This translation of the Iranian president’s speech compared to a few others I’ve seen is the most “literal” (but also the most accurate) translation which makes it also the one that is the most “foreign” in its references. As for it’s organization, it is surprisingly organized much as any paper by an English speaking academic would be with it’s 3 main parts: some of the world’s problems, the cause of these problems, and the way out of them. He also provides the treatment Iran has received as his example/case study. I won’t summarize it because I believe that it is a MUST READ and is the nearest thing to a primary source that we have. My latest interest is to try to stick more to primary (the actual documents) rather than secondary sources. It is pretty long, but the speech moves quickly from one idea to the next. This IS our chance to encounter the REAL THING and not someone else’s view of this speech or propaganda about it.

I personally found the speech a very accurate portrayal of the way things are -- given what I’ve read at Internet sites and looked into myself. His declaration that the 60 year post WWII era is ending and a new age is dawning may seem strange to some, but as the US economy crumbles and the corruption at the top becomes ever more obvious, I’d like to think maybe “the sunset of their times” HAS arrived and that the time HAS come for the ideals that have been trampled on to be revived.

Marie K.  unknownnews@inbox.com
P.S. Here is the link to another transcript, the literal translation of President Ahmadinejad’s Columbia University speech and Q & A period from which Chris M.’s link was a tiny part. Again, there are the Iranian cultural and religious references, but there is also A LOT MORE. Here he focuses on education, learning, and research. You may be surprised at how many of his points you agree with!
 
Death is the penalty for homosexuality in Iran, which does tend to keep Iranian gays closeted. Ahmadinejad, though, is a very smart fellow, not at all the monster the American government and media describe. He's a different monster entirely, much less powerful and bloodthirsty than, say, Dick Cheney.

Helen & Harry  unknownnews@inbox.com



In Bush's pocket

by JR Mooneyham

Sept. 27, 2007
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Bush quietly advising Hillary Clinton, top Democrats?
 
Excerpt: President Bush is quietly providing back-channel advice to Hillary Rodham Clinton, urging her to modulate her rhetoric so she can effectively prosecute the war in Iraq if elected president.

In an interview for the new book The Evangelical President, White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten said Bush has “been urging candidates: ‘Don’t get yourself too locked in where you stand right now. If you end up sitting where I sit, things could change dramatically.’”

If this story is accurate, Bush-Cheney are at least considering leaving office at the end of their term like such officials have historically done: that's the good news.

The bad news is that they're doing everything they can to insure nothing changes if they do leave.

*           *           *
New technology promises new privacy nightmares
 
Excerpt: "We can read fingerprints from about five meters .... all 10 prints," said Bruce Walker, vice president of homeland security for Northrop Grumman Corp. "We can also do an iris scan at the same distance."

Oh goodie! Now you need not even touch anything anywhere for the government to digitally capture your prints, then transfer them to the scene of a crime of their choice, to use as evidence against you.

How on Earth will anyone ever be able to prove their innocence, when it gets so damned easy to make them look guilty?

JR Mooneyham  (jrmooneyham.com)  unknownnews@inbox.com



And now there's only one

by Kathy Fisher

Sept. 27, 2007
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I've been feeding five adorable raccoons and three stray cats and my little possum buddy Blondie. The raccoons are a newcomers, a family started stopping by two times a night on my porch. As you know I sit right by the window on the porch side, so it's easy to know when they arrive, they are pretty used to me now. It's been five months, so they now like me to come out and pour the food for them are make a fuss and even play with them a little ...

But two weeks ago two of them were missing. It was just the two wee ones and the mom. I didn't know what happened to the others. We were getting along. And then last night the small one showed up all by itself and it was shy and very scared to come up to me. Right away I knew something must have happened to other two, but I didn't know what.

Finally after I went in, the little one came and ate. Only on the second return an hour later did it let me come close and give it a pet and feed it by hand. He sat and played in the bowl of water and then washed a bit, then went off to sleep in one of our two tall trees. God, did it look sad and confused.

This morning around 9am I saw the animal control van show up at the door of the neighbors I dislike the most, the flag-waving Bush supporters who hate the birds and squirrels and cats, dogs, skunks, any living thing accept themselves.

Well, I saw the momma and her babe in cages being hauled into the van, and I cursed those scumbag neighbors of mine.

Kathy Fisher  (klfisher@webtv.net) 

  I've mellowed a lot as I've gotten older, but I'd still be tempted to do more than just curse them.

Helen & Harry 

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Why do Americans refuse to get angry?

by Jafo

Sept. 27, 2007
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They are slaughtering a lot of innocent people the world over. People disappear at random into the secret prison system to be tortured and kept indefinitely. Our leaders steal, they pillage, they rape, they torture, they starve people. They refuse to help people that are being slaughtered by others because it is our ally slaughtering them, or because they don't have any more natural resources for big corporations to steal. We watch them take away what our forefathers laid out for us as our natural rights as human beings and they tell us it's for our own good. When people are being beaten and tasered for having the nerve to speak out, speak up, or speak against, American citizens actually cheer!   ... MORE ...

Jafo  unknownnews@inbox.com



Unknown unknowns

by DanD

Sept. 27, 2007
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Re Needs improvement

While G|o S|co's writing style seems ever-so-slightly abrupt, he didn't use any blatant pejoratives (or even anything covertly patronizing) and did use a polite sign-off. Perhaps he was just a bit rushed for time and wanted to quickly inform. What if he had taken the time to add the extra words relating: "You might consider changing your site a bit to focus more on content so as to distract less from it."

Anywhoo, if you found his comments not sufficiently polite, then simply ignoring him could be the most appropriate response. Otherwise, it seems that he has at least taken the time to check UN out ... I think the "bite me" suggestion was not really deserved.

Whatever, maybe he's been (more) abrupt to you before and I don't really know what I'm talking about, but you don't link to any previous correspondence and something about your response just seems a little out of balance.

And I apologize ahead of time if you feel that my assessment above is also rude or otherwise too presumptuous.

As it is, I've seen similar "quick-note" criticisms on Michael Rivero's site and usually, he just sort of snarkily observes: "In all my copious free time, I may consider what you suggest."

Very dry and to the point, but without all the acid-reflux buildup.

DanD 

  Like life itself, I'm occasionally nasty, brutish, and short. Sometimes some folks deserve it, sometimes they don't. Sometimes they deserve an apology, and sometimes they get one.

G|o S|co got one, as our conversation drifted off the dialogue page into more off-topic chattery. He or she has proven him- or herself a worthwhile acquaintance, and we're still chatting.

There's probably a lesson to be learned somewhere in there, but I've never been much for learnin' lessons.

Helen & Harry 

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And I’m the Queen of the May

by jos

Sept. 27, 2007
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Re Hillary's health plan: Out of touch with reality

So if you lose your job, go broke and then lose that insurance because you can't pay this would mean that because I then don't have insurance no one could legally employ me so I could stop living under a bypass or in my old non-running car? (Actual situation I lived through for several years?

Personally, i don't think the homeless nor health/health insurance problems will seriously be handled as long as Congress and the White House live so well and are paid handsomely with all those great fringe benefits.

Instead what if elected officials were dropped off in downtown DC and given a backpack -- an old backpack with a couple of changes of underwear -- not new, not washed and had to wend their way to their offices on foot each day from whichever shelter they stayed in (if there is room and even if there is one open) while getting lunch not in that nice cafeteria but say downtown outside a church or from some overenthusiastic well meaning teen from Bread Not Bombs and they might be allowed to stay in their office as long as they sweep the halls, fix the holes in roof for free and oh not on that couch but on the floor -- what you don't have a sleeping bag and camping mattress? tough...

All for no money, no benefits until the least of America has more than just a smidgen.

Can you picture Ted Kennedy and Vitter et al not fixing the problems by tomorrow afternoon at latest?

Clinton is a liberal? Yeah, and I'm the Queen of the May.

zen hugs,

jos  unknownnews@inbox.com
PS. Vote for me, I need the job, I promise to take the money and run, I swear!


 
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Dialogue for Wednesday, Sept. 26, 2007 

Advice for Ahmadinejad
by Chris M.

Doing well by doing good
by Mrs Giddings

Almost famous
by JRMooneyham
  Honors in order
by Siskiyousis

The difference between
a "democratic" republic and
a Constitutional Republic

by DanD
I had to look away
by G|o S|co

 

Advice for Ahmadinejad

by Chris M.

Sept. 26, 2007
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'No homosexuals in Iran': Ahmadinejad
 
Excerpt: "In Iran we don't have homosexuals like in your country," Ahmadinejad said to howls and boos among the Columbia University audience.

They didn't have them in Nazi Germany either and they were working on getting rid of the Catholics and the Jews as well. If I were you, I would not say things like this with such arrogance. The right wing here already wants your butt in a sling, the left might not be far behind.

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Re Doctor Bureaucracy
Cordially, your complaints are irrelevant to the many millions of Americans who have no health insurance, no money for a doctor, no access to medical care or medicine. And also irrelevant to the far fewer who have money coming out the arse and will still be paying top dollar for top-tier medical care, even under any universal care scenario.
It may be irrelevant as you suggest but none the less true. I detest bureaucracies as much as insurance companies. If someone can come up with a system where in one does not have to justify a procedure to some minor league bureaucrat who is convinced you're trying to rip off the system, I'll be all for it. Maybe a voucher or some such.

"...bad tempered, bureaucrat, officious and callous. They wouldn't even lift a finger to save their own grandmothers from the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal without orders signed in triplicate, sent in, sent back, queried, lost, found, subjected to public inquiry, lost again, and finally buried in soft peat for three months and recycled as firelighters."

Chris M. 

  I'd be delighted to see universal health care enacted in America, and delighted to complain about that bureaucracy once it's up and running.

Helen & Harry 

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Doing well by doing good

by Mrs Giddings

Sept. 26, 2007
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DU is not on my normal reading list, but this week's "Top 10 Conservative Idiots" is stupefyingly hilarious, like a big hit off a plastic lawn bag of nitrous!
 
Excerpt: This week George W. Bush (1) breaks some sad news, Rudy Giuliani (2,3) finds that his head no longer fits through most doors, Mitt Romney (5) gaffes up a storm, and John McCain (6) loses his religion. Enjoy, and don't forget the key!

And here, also found via DU, at last, something to be optimistic about!

New low cost solar panels ready for mass production
 
Excerpt: Colorado State University's method for manufacturing low-cost, high-efficiency solar panels is nearing mass production. AVA Solar Inc. will start production by the end of next year on the technology developed by mechanical engineering Professor W.S. Sampath at Colorado State. The new 200-megawatt factory is expected to employ up to 500 people. Based on the average household usage, 200 megawatts will power 40,000 U.S. homes.

Produced at less than $1 per watt, the panels will dramatically reduce the cost of generating solar electricity and could power homes and businesses around the globe with clean energy for roughly the same cost as traditionally generated electricity.

Mrs Giddings  unknownnews@inbox.com
P.S. A bet on "PBW", the "Wilderhill Clean Energy" ETF was available at $17 per share in January. Today it is nearing $23. Is this a one way bet? Hell no. But if the stock market falls dramatically once again there may be an opportunity to make an actual investment, one which will not darken your karma, quench your spirit, or make you feel terrible about actively joining in the evildoings of Amerifascism :-) Doing well by doing good isn't a bad way to earn a few bucks. And who knows, a few Americans might find jobs as a result of your support.



Almost famous

by JRMooneyham

Sept. 26, 2007
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Giuliani declares himself "one of the four or five best known Americans in the world"
 
Excerpt: "I'm probably one of the four or five best known Americans in the world," Giuliani told a small group of reporters at a posh London hotel as onlookers gathered in the lobby to gawk at actor Dustin Hoffman who was on a separate visit.

I personally could only off the top of my head probably name 1500-2400 'famous' Americans I knew about before I ever heard of Giuliani existing at all (during his time as NY mayor).

Of course, I'm an American: not one of the foreigners Giuliani is speaking of, who might only have recognized 1000 or so famous US actors and singers and politicians before they ever heard of Giuliani.

But still, being in the top 1001 seems a far cry from top five. Maybe he's referring to his legendary role which can be seen exclusively IN HIS OWN MIND. Sort of like Bush's frequent in-depth discussions with God Himself [look it up: Bush has said it happens].

JR Mooneyham  (jrmooneyham.com)  unknownnews@inbox.com



Honors in order

by Siskiyousis

Sept. 26, 2007
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I guess Greenspan is now waiting for his Medal of Freedom...

Siskiyousis  unknownnews@inbox.com



The difference between a "democratic" republic
and a Constitutional Republic

by DanD

Sept. 26, 2007
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Re Who deserves to be tortured

The good Doc. presumes: "We fail to understand the debate between those who might have the opportunity to torture but don't do so, as a rational choice (a large segment of the military I suspect) and the proponents of torture who currently have authority over national policy and are overseeing it use. We who oppose torture on whatever basis are more numerous than those who favor it. In no way could this policy of torture be considered the product of a democratic system. This is an alien policy."

The sad fact is that torture IS NOT an alien policy for people in power and have usurped control of the courts and the media. In America's earlier (pre-Bush) incarnation(s) -- before it became a defacto dictatorship -- it was the U.S. Constitution that prevented the most despicable uses of torture by the Average authority figure operating in our society. Indeed, the citizens of popular democracies that are (mostly) unconstrained by constitutional law can quite easily be made to applaud and even demand that people among them be tortured, if for nothing more than just the entertainment value that may be experienced by the majority.

Really, look at how America's frontiersmen had predominately treated this continent's natives where death by rape was not all that uncommon for young, pretty and captured "redskin" females, or even how FDR tortured a whole cultural minority of American citizens with humiliating incarceration AT GUNPOINT for no better a reason than that their ancestors MIGHT have been Japanese -- at many times in our own nation's "democratic" history, torture was just as American as apple pie was ever advertised to be.

As it is, the worst of our species desire to torture may be somewhat mitigated by strong and severe national laws that would let the torturer intimately know AND experience what he would otherwise attempt to produce for others. But when those constitutionally obligated restraints are no longer respected or enforced, look for our most recent gaggle of masters to first torture the alien among us, and when some of our more conscientious citizens complain, look for torture's qualifications to absorb a more "liberal" definition that would invariably include the homegrown dissenter.

Bread and Circuses for all!

What makes us human is not always that which causes us to be civilized.

DanD  unknownnews@inbox.com



I had to look away

by G|o S|co

Sept. 26, 2007
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Re Needs improvement

My first impression of your site was to look away and as such found it difficult to get into the content. I tried and still found it difficult. So I am suggesting a cleaner more organized view of the content to ease the eye and convey whatever you want in a more appealing way. From there I thought I will just add your RSS feed and noticed that your main page does noticed that my browser did not auto-detect your main RSS feed. So I recommend you add that. Then I went looking for your RSS feeds to discover (if memory serves, because now I have no idea what your site it, perhaps add it to your email footer) you have many feeds? and it was unclear which is the main feed. Again I can remember exactly now. Either that or I could not find your feeds.

These ideas are just best practice in my opinion to help increase subscribers and make the site easier to use.

All the best and good luck.

G|o S|co 

  Thanks for your comments about our RSS-esque feeds. I looked at our feed instruction page and even I found it bewildering. It had full instructions for seven feeds, when six out of seven are almost certainly used only by me, webmistressing our own site. So I re-did that page, pruned the instructions, and now it offers only one feed -- the only Unknown News feed, to my knowledge, that anybody's using on any website beyond our own. So again I say, sincerely, thanks.

As for the website's general repulsiveness, sorry, can't help you with that, but take my word for it, it was a lot uglier before we prettied it up. Also can't much help if you need an auto-detect to detect something. I'm a cranky bitch and an e-luddite at heart, and I don't even know what an auto-detect is. There's a very low limit to how much I'm willing to spruce things up.

Helen & Harry  unknownnews@inbox.com


 
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Dialogue for Tuesday, Sept. 25, 2007 

Cable access
by Paula Z.

Win-win, lose-lose
by Cassandra

Doctor Bureaucracy
by Chris M.

  So-called regulation
by JR Mooneyham

We are all terrorists now
by Herb Ruhs, MD

Needs improvement
by G|o S|co

 

Cable access

by Paula Z.

Sept. 25, 2007
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Re And now, the INN World Report Evening News

Channel 26 is "Public Access" on our Comcast network. That must mean that INN is getting free airtime. Interesting because our city government channel broadcasts 22 hours a day of the same PowerPoint slides -- which just show bar graphs of various statistics relating to the "plan", and the print is almost too small to read, so it is a total waste of free cable access. I recall a similar thing about radio in Albuquerque, which even though it is a micro-budget thing, they still have to go through the whole production process (like professionals, which makes sense.) Perhaps this is something useful to pursue.

Paula Z. 

  Hey, I watched the INN newscast. Well, actually I listened -- I almost never watch TV newscasts, my eyes are elsewhere. But it sounded solid, and I'll be listening regularly ... Thanks again!

Only it looks like they're a little half-assed about uploading the newscasts. The latest one on-line when I listened (Monday) was last Wednesday's.

Helen & Harry  unknownnews@inbox.com



Win-win, lose-lose

by Cassandra

Sept. 25, 2007
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The secret lobbying campaign your phone company doesn't want you to know about

This is a win-win for the telephone industry and the government. It's a lose-lose for citizens and their rights.

Par for the course, yes?

Cassandra  unknownnews@inbox.com



Doctor Bureaucracy

by Chris M.

Sept. 25, 2007
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50% favor government guaranteed health care coverage
 
Excerpt: Half (50%) of American voters favor government guaranteed universal health care coverage. A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey also found that a plurality (43%) believe such a program would be better run by private companies than by the government.

The survey was conducted shortly after Senator Hillary Clinton unveiled her health care proposal to the nation. Clinton's plan would require every American to purchase health insurance and provide financial assistance through tax breaks and other means to help keep in affordable.

The biggest problem with a government "single payer" health system is the same problem with all government systems. They are a bureaucracy. And people who work in bureaucracies are only concerned with protecting their own rear ends. Anyone who has had to deal with any government agency knows this. They will not bend any rule for any reason, no matter what the circumstances. Bureaucracies are worse than the military because they inflect pain and grief in such a totally cold and detached manner for no reason except to follow the rules.

Chris M. 

  Cordially, your complaints are irrelevant to the many millions of Americans who have no health insurance, no money for a doctor, no access to medical care or medicine. And also irrelevant to the far fewer who have money coming out the arse and will still be paying top dollar for top-tier medical care, even under any universal care scenario.

Helen & Harry 

Chris M. replies
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So-called regulation

by JR Mooneyham

Sept. 25, 2007
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Safe children v. Free Trade Accords
 
Excerpt: Chinese officials estimate that 50 percent of exported products do not even comply with Chinese laws," said Mary Teagarden, who is a professor at the Thunderbird School of Global Management, a top international business school, and has visited Chinese factories. "Their system relies on self-regulation and we found that this does not work.

I got news for Americans: lots of the so-called regulation on corporations in our own country is of the same 'self-regulation' nature which Teagarden says doesn't work.

JR Mooneyham  (jrmooneyham.com)  unknownnews@inbox.com



We are all terrorists now

by Herb Ruhs, MD

Sept. 25, 2007
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With the world's most powerful military at your beck and call you can be a crazy as you want to be.

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I'm sorry, I don't believe the notorious pathological liar, Greenspan, in his assertion that the Iraq War is "all about the oil."

What it is all about, to my observation, is looting every source of treasure in sight, including the US Treasury, everyone's retirement funds, and every concentration of valuable resources that can be found in throughout the world.

Recognizing this fact generates the insight that, to this international cabal of criminals, the rest of us, virtually every person on earth, are all terrorists. We are all active or potential terrorists because we pose the threat of eventual retribution for their crimes, and therefore we are terrifying to these criminals gone wild.

While we may rightly condemn violent acts against innocents, we need not be afraid to assume the mantle of "terrorist" in relation to these organized depraved criminals. It is one of the few reassuring aspects of our current debacle. They really are afraid of us in spite of our confused and debilitated condition. Odd but true.

Herb Ruhs, MD 

  Interesting psychoanalysis. Picture me pondering this for a loooong moment.

I can't control how the criminals in power see me, and I don't doubt that in the monsters' eyes and the eyes of their low-level criminal employees who are reading what I'm typing (quite possibly before it's even posted on-line), we're all potential terrorists.

Of course, in reality I'm almost as gentle as a human can be. I've never committed an act of violence that wasn't richly deserved by the recipient, and my last such deserved act of violence was quit