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Dialogue for Saturday, June 14, 2008 

The good old days by Chris M.       Right up until the end by Sherri B.
Soldiers' revolt in Iraq by Hazel Burke       Tim Russert, broil in hell by Angry Annie
Who's "goading" and "baiting" who? by Observer       Deranged by My Left Gonad
Living in the moment by MonkeyMan       Shafted coming and going by Herb Ruhs, MD
A big middle finger by Steven H.       Ethical standards, my arse by Ben Legume
Immorality, incompetence, illegal activities by Marshall S.


The good old days

by Chris M.

June 14, 2008
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The Divided States of America
 
Excerpt: In stepped Nixon -- himself a lifelong “serial collector of resentments, ” as Perlstein calls him -- who knew how to ride the reactionary swell. He had watched Ronald Reagan get elected governor of California by railing nonstop against Berkeley lefties. And he saw that the GOP could benefit from white rage over busing and open-housing policies, and that the one-third of AFL-CIO members who quietly supported Gov. George Wallace’s race-baiting candidacy could be his instead. (Nixon’s 1968 victory was assured when South Carolina’s Sen. Strom Thurmond agreed to steer Southerners away from Wallace and toward the GOP; as president, Nixon repaid the favor by appointing right-wing judges and bogging down integration efforts.)

Liberal elites and the press thought Nixon tacky and uncouth. But, as the old William Blake aphorism has it, the tigers of wrath were wiser than the horses of instruction. Behind the scenes, Kevin Phillips, a young Nixon strategist, convinced the boss that Republicans could piggyback on popular resentment of cultural elites to create a new electoral majority. It was perfect: Nixon, after all, couldn’t veer left on economics to win over the white working class -- his corporate paymasters wouldn’t hear of it. But he could woo them on social issues. Noted one aide: “Patriotic themes to counter depression will get response from unemployed.”

And it's just as true now as then. You can have all the happy symbolism and trite slogans of "Hope and Change" but there are still a lot of very angry and resentful people out there who long for the days they remember. Where you could leave your back door open to let the breeze in and not have to worry that something else might come in as well. Where you still could live comfortably on a middle class income. Where we were the good guys and everyone believed it. When tomatoes did not make you sick.

And the Republicans are very skilled at exploiting this to the max.

Chris M.  unknownnews@inbox.com



Right up until the end

by Sherri B.

June 14, 2008
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Re You feel it too

I feel the same way. My dreams are filled with horrors. My husband is just as complacent as a pig in slop. He complains but if I say "Let's go to a protest" or send money somewhere etc. he says: "You're into that stuff, you do it."

Well I'm gonna "do that stuff" -- right up until the end.

Hugs, ladies and gentlemen

Sherri B.  unknownnews@inbox.com



Soldiers' revolt in Iraq

by Hazel Burke

June 14, 2008
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This explains the desire of the ruling junta to have an all volunteer force supplemented by mercenary soldiers (who have established the free-market price of mass murder at no less than $1000 per day per man). But even volunteer soldiering has its limitations for the war lords.

Once the soldiers determine that they are being cynically used for purposes which have no relation to defending America, and they see their own lives being squandered in unlimited tours of duty as occupation forces and police, they re-focus their attention on "force protection missions". This, I believe, is the key to understanding the sustained drop in US casualties. The US military has been forced to use air power to win a ground war.

Vietnam: The soldier's revolt
 
  Excerpt: Our army that now remains in Vietnam is in a state approaching collapse, with individual units avoiding or having refused combat, murdering their officers and noncommissioned officers, drug-ridden, and dispirited where not near-mutinous [C]onditions [exist] among American forces in Vietnam that have only been exceeded in this century by...the collapse of the Tsarist armies in 1916 and 1917.
Armed Forces Journal, June 1971

The most neglected aspect of the Vietnam War is the soldiers' revolt -- the mass upheaval from below that unraveled the American army. It is a great reality check in an era when the U.S. touts itself as an invincible nation. For this reason, the soldiers' revolt has been written out of official history. Yet it was a crucial part of the massive antiwar movement whose activity helped the Vietnamese people in their struggle to free Vietnam -- described once by President Johnson as a "raggedy-ass little fourth-rate country" -- from U.S. domination. The legacy of the soldiers' revolt and the U.S. defeat in Vietnam -- despite more recent U.S. victories over Iraq and Serbia -- casts a pall on the Pentagon. They still fear the political backlash that might come if U.S. ground forces sustain heavy casualties in a future war.

The army revolt was a class struggle that pitted working-class soldiers against officers who viewed them as expendable. The fashionable attempt to revise Vietnam War history, to airbrush its horrors, to create a climate supportive of future military interventions, cannot acknowledge that American soldiers violently opposed that war, or that American capitalism casually tolerated the massacre of working-class troops. Liberal academics have added to the historical distortion by reducing the radicalism of the 1960s to middle-class concerns and activities, while ignoring working-class rebellion. But the militancy of the 1960s began with the Black working class as the motor force of the Black liberation struggle, and it reached its climax with the unity of white and Black working-class soldiers whose upsurge shook U.S. imperialism.

In Vietnam, the rebellion did not take the same form as the mass stateside GI antiwar movement, which consisted of protests, marches, demonstrations and underground newspapers. In Vietnam, the aim of the soldiers was more modest, but also more subversive: survival, to "CYA" (cover your ass), to protect "the only body you have" by fighting the military's attempt to continue the war. The survival conflict became a war within the war that ripped the armed forces apart. In 1965, the Green Machine was the best army the U.S. ever put into the field; a few years later, it was useless as a fighting force.

"Survival politics," as it was then called, expressed itself through the destruction of the search-and-destroy strategy, through mutinies, through the killing of officers, and through fraternization and making peace from below with the National Liberation Front (NLF). It was highly effective in destroying everything that military hierarchy and discipline stand for. It was the proudest moment in the U.S. army's history.

Like most of the revolutionary traditions of the American working class, the soldiers' revolt has been hidden from history. The aim of this essay is to reclaim the record of that struggle. ...

The NLF responded to the new situation. People's Press, a GI paper, in its June 1971 issue claimed that NLF and NVA units were ordered not to open hostilities against U.S. troops wearing red bandanas or peace signs, unless first fired upon. Two months later, the first Vietnam veteran to visit Hanoi was given a copy of "an order to North Vietnamese troops not to shoot U.S. soldiers wearing antiwar symbols or carrying their rifles pointed down." He reports its impact on "convincing me that I was on the side of the Vietnamese now."

Colonel Heinl reported this:

That 'search-and-evade' has not gone unnoticed by the enemy is underscored by the Viet Cong delegation's recent statement at the Paris Peace Talks that Communist units in Indochina have been ordered not to engage American units which do not molest them. The same statement boasted -- not without foundation in fact -- that American defectors are in the VC ranks.

Some officers joined, or led their men, in the unofficial cease-fire from below. A U.S. army colonel claimed:

I had influence over an entire province. I put my men to work helping with the harvest. They put up buildings. Once the NVA understood what I was doing, they eased up. I'm talking to you about a de facto truce, you understand. The war stopped in most of the province. It's the kind of history that doesn't get recorded. Few people even know it happened, and no one will ever admit that it happened.

Hazel Burke 

  I'd be ecstatic if the same thing is happening in Iraq ... and of course, if it is happening, we won't be reading about it in the NEW YORK TIMES.

Helen & Harry 

Doc Herb replies
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Tim Russert, broil in hell

by Angry Annie

June 14, 2008
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Tim Russert is dead. He was an awful journalist, an endless fountain of predictable softball questions with half-hearted follow-up. His shallowness and eagerness to please the powers that be made him complicit in everything that's happened to America over the past several years, and if there's a God in Heaven Russert is in Hell already, and I hope Satan turns the oven up to an extra-high broil.

NBC will have to search with great diligence to find an even worse host for Meet the Press. Yet I'm sure the network is up to that challenge.

Angry Annie 

  I always thought Tim Russert got enormous undue respect for looking like an old-time gruff and tough reporter, but he never was. The whiteboard schtick was cute, but I don't remember anything worth respecting as genuine journalism in his performance during the many hours I wasted watching Meet the Press and his appearances on election night coverage. All I remember is endlessly wishing he'd ask pertinent questions, challenge obvious spin and lies, have different guests, or just somehow be something other than a sock puppet in a suit.

Helen & Harry  unknownnews@inbox.com



Who's "goading" and "baiting" who?

by Observer

June 14, 2008
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Re Out of Israel's control

In The Canadian's world view, Hamas is "goading" Israel and Hezbollah is "baiting" Israel. That's an interesting choice of words. It sounds like the same perspective that would say Iraq "taunted" the US into attacking, or Iran is "daring" the US to attack, or the Sioux had a "readiness to attack" the US Cavalry, which they did -- but using such words and leaving it at that almost sounds like justification for these atrocities. It reminds me of peaceful protests I've attended where cops lifted their clubs and started hammering on people for nothing, but the newspaper the next day reported that cops had been "forced to respond..."

Look, I don't want to start a big argument or piss off The Canadian (who always has valuable insights) but let's not use loaded language, OK? Let's speak plain English:

Hamas and Hezbollah are resisting and responding to Israel's inhumane tactics and policies. Considered fairly, Hamas' and Hezbollah's resistance and response are nowhere near equal to the provocation. Neither Hamas nor Hezbollah is capable of responding with anywhere near the strength and ruthlessness of Israel. The rebels have rocks and rage and some comparatively low-tech missiles, while Israel is armed with the power of government, a top-tier military, an arsenal of nuclear weapons (not "plans" or "aspirations"), and of course an endless supply of leaders who show no hint of what's laughably sometimes called "Judeo-Christian ethics".

Seriously ask yourself, who's "goading" and "baiting" who?

Observer 

The Canadian replies
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Deranged

by My Left Gonad

June 14, 2008
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Re Incredibly stupid, or outright deranged

I vote for outright deranged.

My Left Gonad  unknownnews@inbox.com



Living in the moment

by MonkeyMan

June 14, 2008
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Re My health is not for sale

Wow, you are right. There is little known about adult cystic fibrosis. The only current research I could find were studies to alleviate symptoms, not so much on genetic screening or pathology for adults. If I understand what I read so far, CF is similar to Lupus in that they symptoms are a little different for each one afflicted. You just have to wait and see which way the disease wants to go. Living in the moment, one day at a time seems like the only way to cope with it.

I have some more opposites for you. What about the man on TV who is going to make YOU rich by having you send HIM money? A man rapes a woman, but rape is a woman's issue? Sound like the man has the issue, she just has the bruises. Rape is a man's issue.

The PATRIOT Act turns our government against its citizen, undermines fundamental rights, and did more damage to our way of life than 9/11. The terrorists collapsed the towers, but the president collapsed our country. Should have been called The Capitulation of Rights Act. A patriotic act would be to study the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, then adhere to them in the face of all challenges and temptations.

The Forestry people decide which trees the loggers can have, why aren't they called De-forestry people?

Why do women wear panties liners, when men have more obvious problems? If you do the laundry...you know what I mean.

The same people who wanted to impeach Bill Clinton for screwing one woman, don't want to impeach Bush who screwed us all.

The government takes our own money and gives it back to us as a rebate so that we can give it to the oil companies. Why not just give it to Exxon directly and save postage?

We "defend" by attacking, we use love and tolerance teachings of Christ to spread hatred, intolerance, and war.

Pro-life doesn't have anything to do with ensuring healthcare, justice, education, equality or defense against capital punishment. Prohibition doesn't work. Outlawing abortion only stops SAFE ABORTIONS. Should be Pro-I-want-to-tell-you-how-to-live-your-life.

But what do you expect from a species that built structures that block out the sun, then created artificial light so that we could see. DUH!

In comparison, my note to Nancy Pelosi was brief, but similar in content.

Your Kindred Spirit,

MonkeyMan 

Marlene M. replies
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Shafted coming and going

by Herb Ruhs, MD

June 14, 2008
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I may have actually contracted salmonella from some Costco tomatoes. Symptoms are consistent, but I can't think of why to go to the trouble of getting a stool culture. After the spinach that laid me low and now likely tomatoes, I am through with industrial fresh produce.

Herb Ruhs, MD 

  I sure hope the symptoms and mild and fading...

Helen & Harry 

Actually much, much worse today. ... I am having terrible diarrhea, hardly can eat. Lot of pain. ... This is what many of the people who ate industrial tomatoes are experiencing. I was at increased risk due to the meds I am taking to keep down stomach acid to aid the healing of my esophagus because acid in the stomach is the first line of defense.

Herb Ruhs, MD 

  Well, I don't want to pester you or anything while you're miserable ... but I'm assuming as a doctor you know way better than me how to take care of yourself through this. It's something that'll pass without serious consequences?

Prayers from somebody who doesn't quite believe in God are every bit as effective as anyone else's prayers!

Helen & Harry 

I went to the ER last night and got IV fluids and antibiotics for what is presumed to be a serious case of salmonella gastroenteritis, which is what I thought, though the ER physician was unreasonably resistant insisting that it was diverticulitis. Typical, so many US physicians are apparently insulted at the thought of a patient, especially another physician, having an opinion about what is wrong with them. US medicine has just been reduced to a smoldering ruin.

I'm still pretty sick today, but with any luck I will start improving over the next few days on antibiotics (salmonella is usually not treated by the way because antibiotics can actually prolong the disease and creates the risk of inducing a carrier state).

I am in the same situation as everyone else in the country. Shafted coming and going. Poisonous industrial agriculture at one end and incompetent profit-hungry medicine at the other. The saving grace being that, through my wife, I have access to insurance as part of a privileged, and captive, professional class.

Herb Ruhs, MD 

  I sense an optimistic outlook, and I hope you're allowing yourself some rest and relaxing while you recuperate. Love from both of us...

Helen & Harry 

Trying, but very difficult as I am being made responsible for child care for our VERY ACTIVE five year old. I am likely to survive the illness but remain at risk of succumbing to having the house burned down around me. But hell, it is as easy as falling off a log to point to folks that have it MUCH, MUCH worse. I learned, for instance, the day before yesterday that a dear friend has been diagnosed with end stage cancer (maybe six months to live) after a failure to diagnose the cancer six months ago in what sounds like gross malpractice. Now that's bad.

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Re Impeach Pelosi

You might want to check with a constitutional lawyer, but I am virtually certain that any officer can be impeached, much less the third in line for the presidency.

Herb Ruhs, MD 

PS: thanks for the prayers.

  Apparently, much to my surprise, it's not a settled question whether Congressmembers can be impeached. Of course, I like the idea, but this pathetic Congress isn't about to do anything so daring.

Helen & Harry 

Doc Herb replies
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A big middle finger

by Steven H.

June 14, 2008
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Ford tells union leaders more cuts needed

And this announcement comes two weeks after Ford said it'll be building its next generation of cars in Mexico. Ford, like so many other companies, is basically giving America a big middle finger.

Steven H.  unknownnews@inbox.com



Ethical standards, my arse

by Ben Legume

June 14, 2008
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What's this from the news? A SUSPENDED detective was secretly recorded saying he hoped all of his colleagues in the Ethical Standards Department would die.

Ben Legume  unknownnews@inbox.com



Immorality, incompetence, illegal activities

by Marshall S.

June 14, 2008
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Rezko: Feds pushed for dirt on Obama

Shows how scared the current government is of Obama. This is probably why Rezko was busted in the first place.

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Ex-Capital One employee files whistleblower lawsuit
 
Excerpt: District Court in Manhattan, Rachel Steinmetz said she was forced into an "involuntary resignation" by her superiors in retaliation for refusing "to approve fraudulent, unlawful and bad loans" and reporting the activities to her superiors and authorities.

The sick results of Bush's crony capitalism. Where immorality, incompetence, illegal activities are OK and are in fact the norm.

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Probe reveals hundreds of expired products at CVS, Rite Aid

Is corruption the only way to make money these days? Do they teach this at MBA business school, or do they wait until they are in the field?

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Mike Huckabee joins Fox News Channel

First they got Rove. Then Huckabee. Who's next? Bush's cabinet after they leave office? All the nutcases will be in one place.

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Quebec companies charged with fixing gas prices

It's probably happening here, for gasoline. And around the world, the price of oil is probably fixed, not based on supply/demand.

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Iraq, perceived hypocrisy fuel record anti-Americanism

Everyone has know this for many years. What's news is that the House of Representatives is just finding this out.

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New Republican Gang of 14 won't back McCain

They're trying to shed the Bush-stink. Good luck. It comes with the blood of over 1 million people dead.

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Port Arthur, Texas site set to burn toxic PCBs

Aren't we killing ourselves fast enough? Do we need this much help?

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ACLU sues Texas state juvenile prison system

Texas justice.

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In school's hoax, students were told classmates died in DWI accidents

Lying and cruelty by authority. It's the Bush legacy. Get used to it.

Marshall S.  unknownnews@inbox.com


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Dialogue for Friday, June 13, 2008 

Impeach Pelosi by Herb Ruhs, MD       The few by Sherri B.       Headed for Missouri by Jos
Buzzed by MonkeyMan     US Army endorses McCain by David G.    You feel it too by Kathy Fisher
Incredibly stupid, or outright deranged by JR Mooneyham      One little thing by Wig
Out of Israel's control by The Canadian      My health is not for sale by Marlene M.


Impeach Pelosi

by Herb Ruhs, MD

June 13, 2008
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Modest proposal: Impeach Nancy Pelosi for blocking the impeachment of Bush/Cheney.

Herb Ruhs, MD 

  I love the thought, but I don't think there's any legal means to impeach a Congressperson. It's a long shot but for whatever it's worth, a few weeks ago I sent ten bucks to Cindy Sheehan, who's running against Pelosi.

Helen & Harry 

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The few

by Sherri B.

June 13, 2008
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Puppy-throwing Marine is removed from Corps

THESE are our proud servicemen?

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Truckers' strike cripples Spain
 
Excerpt: Strike action by thousands of Spanish and Portuguese truckers produced ominous knock-on effects on food supplies, aviation and industry yesterday, as Lisbon airport ran out of fuel, car factories shut down and petrol stations and supermarkets reported shortages.

Um, America? Pay attention.

Sherri B.  unknownnews@inbox.com



Headed for Missouri

by Jos

June 13, 2008
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Thanks to some wonderful people I now will be getting a bus ticket to Missouri from here in Pennsylvania. I may be a little harder to reach and not sure when next Harmony and I will get to chat via gchat but if you don't get an email any day this week then it means I am on a bus.

Starting tomorrow morning I can catch the bus out at 11:50 am, that holds for through Sunday even. I will be arriving in Lebanon, Missouri at 10:20 pm a day later. specifically I day, 1 hour and 10 minutes later. There will be 2 transfers so I will have a couple of layovers it looks like because of the extra time.

Wish me well in this and I want all to be well and happy!

Basically, my thought is to get on that bus tomorrow and as a plan I prefer it. will have breakfast here and get my bags packed -- will do some wash tonight -- and just not do compulsory chapel....

Inside I am already so out of here!

Remember Stonecircle I leave at 11:50 am and will arrive 10:20 pm the next night!

See you then!

zen hugs,

Jos  unknownnews@inbox.com

P.S. Since they are the ones who helped me I have to tell everyone that from here on out you should read Fallen Angels Used Books (faubcomiccom) as it may well just save your life! Same goes for Broken Glass though the URL escapes me just now!



Buzzed

by MonkeyMan

June 13, 2008
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Re Take it with a chuckle

Handshake?

ZZZT handbuzzer!

Just kidding.

The temps in the south have been hitting 100 and I haven't been sleeping. But my sense of humor is slowly returning, so yeah... let's shrug it off and get on with electing Obama. One of the great things about living here is that we can agree to disagree and respect each other's right to say what you will.

Besides, we have work to do.
 
"Remember, remember the 5th of November, the gun powder treason and plot.
I know of no reason why the gun powder treason should ever be forgot."
     --V

MonkeyMan  unknownnews@inbox.com



US Army endorses McCain

by David G.

June 13, 2008
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Army public affairs office promotes ‘Obama = surrender’ talking point

The Pentagon's propaganda program continues ...

David G.  unknownnews@inbox.com



Incredibly stupid, or outright deranged

by JR Mooneyham

June 13, 2008
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How Iran has Bush over a barrel

This article completely ignores the fact that Bush, Cheney, and Israel have all three over the past six years made it clear that they are either incredibly stupid, or outright deranged. So reason and logic might have nothing whatsoever to do with their actions. Related links:

The dire fate of Israel

What happens if Iran gives Bush the ground war he doesn't want?

JR Mooneyham  (www.jrmooneyham.com/) 

My Left Gonad replies
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One little thing

by Wig

June 13, 2008
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Retail sales "soared" by 1 percent last month

No mention that inflation played a significant part in the increased sale figures.

Wig  unknownnews@inbox.com



You feel it too

by Kathy Fisher

June 13, 2008
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The pod people make it more unbearable. Empty stares into space looks on their faces. I swear it takes everything inside me to not punch them right in their closed tight mouths. Or there are those who seem to be all happy about something and completely disconnected from reality. W-T-Hell's up with you people? Do! Say! something you morons!

The shelves are not being stocked, basic things are missing every time I go to a store I notice this. Every item every four days is going up 30cents or more... Something's going to happen. I feel it more and more every day. It's like I'm in a room where the air is slowly being let out.

You know what I'm talking about, don't you? You feel it too.

I SEE THE TUNNEL BUT I SURE AS HELL DON'T SEE ANY LIGHT!

Kathy Fisher  (klfisher@webtv.net) 

  Yeah, I feel it too. I tell myself that feeling is coming from within, a combination of my own fears and disgust, but I can't come close to convincing myself it ain't real. And if what we're feeling is real, well, I'm glad I had a chance to call you a friend.

Helen & Harry 

Sherri B. replies
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Out of Israel's control

by The Canadian

June 13, 2008
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Interesting respite. Israel has chosen to determine if an Egyptian structured truce with Hamas can take hold. The larger than ususal missile/mortar barrage from Gaza into Israel makes it clear that Hamas is goading Israel into a war in the South.

Israel, I suspect, does not want to take the bait given Hez b'Allah's readiness to attack from the North thereby dividing Israel's armed forces.

Tough position to be in. I do not think, however, that Israel is able to control the eventual outcome desired by its enemies. A multiple front attack against Israel during a time when the US and Israel are militarily and politically devoid of Middle East influence.

As I mentioned before, Iran is an ancient civilization and they have outplayed their enemies with ease.

I still firmly believe that the high prospect of a much larger Middle East war remains.

The Canadian 

  Picture me perplexed, scratching my head at your mention of "a time when the US and Israel are militarily and politically devoid of Middle East influence". I don't see this time coming soon, do you? It certainly hasn't happened in the past sixty years...

Helen & Harry 

The time has already come.

To possess military and political power does not mean that it is always effectively used to exact the influence that a country desires.

Iraq is a cage for the US Military lion lead by a lame duck President whose neocon ideology has run its historical course.

Israel has a potent military with nuclear weapons, but a conventional army, no matter how powerful, is not strong when divided on multiple fronts. Their nuclear option is a doomsday choice without clear and present conventional purpose. Israel's back is to the sea, and they are surrounded by enemies on 4 fronts: S Lebanon, Syria, Gaza, W. Bank. Arab/Persian countries contain populations that are 10X that of Israel.

Israel's main ally is the US and NOT Europe. Both the US and Israel have domestic political challenges, to say the least.

This century's economic superpowers have risen: China and India.

The West is now facing East.

The Canadian 

  I like the way you think, especially on days when I can't quite keep up and you reach back and give me a helping hand.

Helen & Harry 

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My health is not for sale

by Marlene M.

June 13, 2008
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Dear Monkey Man: Re Everything is mislabeled

Oh, I know they will deny my claim. I've already got a lawyer, signed fee agreement and everything. Knowing me, though, just because I'm prepared, they'll probably approve it, and there goes 25% of the lump sum payment! It's when I'm not prepared that I get kicked off my keester. LOL.

A very long time ago, I worked for Legal Aid. My boss was the Social Security disability "specialist" in the area. I was friends with a couple. The male had lung cancer. I urged them to come in where I work and apply for Social Security disability. They were very hesitant, and I almost had to DRAG them in. They finally caved, my boss represented them, and, of course, he was denied. By the time his benefits were approved, he had died. This man worked his entire life in what once as a thriving steel mill on our town. (It's long been gone.) LUNG CANCER??!! Didn't he deserve better?

Ironically, when the SSI representative interviewed me, she shared with me that she, too, had had pancreatitis and knew how painful the disease is. Hers apparently went away. I gave her my sermon about cystic fibrosis, should it ever return, become chronic and be referred to as "idiopathic."

Regardless, I know I'll be denied.

I'm very sorry to hear about your friends. There definitely comes a time when we do question our own mortality, particularly if others in our age group are suffering. My mother was one of those people who was never sick. She was considered a "little goofy" when she followed advice that she had read in a book that was written DECADES ago regarding diet and its relationship to colon cancer: What to eat, what not to eat, etc. (This is the very same advice that is being given to people today, by the way.) She died at age 66 of colon cancer.

I envy your swimming! LOL. When I lived in Pennsylvania, I'd often visit the Jersey shore. I adore the beach. Recently, every dream I've had involves the ocean, and sometimes I'm disappointed when I wake up. My daughter and son-in-law just bought a pool for my grandkids last week. If/when I can, I'm going to buy a bathing suit and go out there with them. It's not just that I enjoy swimming (it IS a kids' pool); my cystic fibrosis has made me vitamin D deficient. ("Insufficient" range for 25-hydroxyvitamin D is 20-29 ng/mL; "deficient" range is less than 20 ng/mL, and my score is less than 4 ng/mL.) So it would be good for me, as well, to be out in sun more. (This means I'll probably wind up with skin cancer! LOL)

Although I thank you very much for your comment about my being brave, please don't think that I am. If anything, I'm extremely nosy. I don't like surprises, so in a way, I'm fortunate. I also become extremely and immediately humbled when I think of all the children and babies who have died from this disease. I'm 55 and have lived a relatively healthy life. Having said that, I could go out and get hit by a bus tomorrow. Few of us really know when/how we will reach the end (or beginning, depending on your point of view).

I'm trying to learn as much as I can about cystic fibrosis, just as I did with pancreatitis. I feel somewhat of an expert regarding pancreatitis because literature regarding the disease is written in ENGLISH, but when it comes to cystic fibrosis, it's much more difficult, particularly when trying to understand genotypes, phenotypes, etc. As they say, it's all "Greek" to me. I'm trying to understand, and it's frustrating because I'm NOT a child, my disease, symptoms, mutations and "variants of the poly T tract in the CFTR gene" are a little different, and most of the literature out there is about babies and young children. Also hindering my understanding is the fact that they're still researching this disease, and finding adults diagnosed with it is a relatively new phenomenon.

I can't believe for one minute that the man in charge of the air program at your company can be HELPED by his work duties! I always see a ton of ads on TV and internet for mesothelioma, apparently usually caused by work environment. This seems, as well, to be something that was relatively recently discovered.

I can sooooooooooooo relate to feeling like living in an opposite world. When I found this site, I thought, "YES!!! I'm NOT the only one, and I just might NOT be living in some kind of weird parallel universe!" I had to smile at your reference to Rachel Ray. After I had already sent my "Hillary Speech" piece to Grandma and Grandpa, I "tweaked" it a little more, and one of the things I did was to add to the sentence about my liking Rachel Ray "even though she's secretly a Muslim." I also love your reference to the "White House" and "Black Water."

My health is not for sale. (Who would buy it, anyway??! It's like one of those subprime mortgages.) Likewise, I don't think my healthCARE should be a commodity that is traded on the Dow.

Think about it for a second. In what other area of "capitalism" are you NOT approved or denied credit without some prior evaluation of your ability to repay the loan? When you enter an emergency room, you're asked to sign here, here, and here. I realize we're dealing with a much different situation than, say, purchasing a vehicle. I'd obviously not be approved to purchase a Mercedes, but I might be able to afford a Chevy Cavalier (at least I used to be). Unfortunately, the result often winds up being hundreds of thousands of medical bills that most people couldn't pay if they worked 24/7 for the rest of their lives and turned their entire paychecks over to the multiple providers who are billing them.

I may not be guaranteed to a Mercedes or Cavalier, but I AM supposed to be guaranteed "LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." Where is the morality when one's very ability to live or die depends on the number of dollars in his/her wallet? The only telephone I have is a Cricket cell phone (best deal I could find). I rarely turn it on because the only people anxious to speak with me are bill collectors. Although I admit to being depressed, depression is a disease that is a common component of chronic pancreatitis (even without CF). Knowing I have these bills that I can't repay has deeply affected my self-respect.

I BEGGED my auto credit company to repossess my car in mid 2007. They finally did it a few months ago. Now I owe MORE than what they were able to sell it for at auction. I received my first notice from the collection agency last month and mailed them a check for $5.00, which they cashed. I'll never be able to pay off that debt.

Although there are a lot of things I need right now, I'm trying my best to hang on to $250.00 cash because I need that to rent a car for my next appointment with the cystic fibrosis physician, scheduled for June 25. My car is gone, and my daughter's car is very old and very well may not be able to make the 160-mile round trip.

When I was still "insured" with my "employer-provided" health insurance, the monthly premium was over $600 a month, my largest monthly expense. However, the thousands of dollars it DIDN'T pay are the things I'm about to be sued for. My local hospital suggested I apply for their "indigent program." I did and was accepted. It has helped a lot with the hospital bills and a few of the providers. I was still sick, still breaking my back to earn enough money to feed the greedy insurance company, and I had no money left to pay the deductibles, copays and other things the "insurance" company refused to pay. I barely had enough left over to pay for internet and phone. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?!! Believe me, SOMEONE is paying a TON of money for my illness, one way or the other. So they're going to sue me. At least they can't shoot me (yet).

Capitalism is good for some things. Healthcare isn't one of them.

I couldn't agree more with every single thing you said in your last paragraph and loved the way you expressed it.

Is it you? Well, if it is, it's you AND me, and no, I don't think it's you. Instead, you may be one of the few who is paying attention.

Sorry for the length of this, but your note really touched me (and/or ticked me off -- again). LOL! Again, your last paragraph particularly struck me as pretty much summing it all up, and I'm seriously thinking of printing it out in large print and taping it to my wall right above my computer monitor to remind me that I'M not alone out there!

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Re I hate that you think

Well, he DID say, during debates with Gore, that he was against "nation building." Looking around America (which is resembling Iraq more and more every day with floods, droughts, tornadoes, hurricanes, collapsing bridges, wildfires, etc.), war-torn Iraq and every other nation bearing his "fingerprints," I'd say that was definitely one time he told a pretty significant truth.

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Re Start spreading the news

On Tuesday, I wrote the following letter to Speaker Pelosi. I would strongly urge anyone who supports impeachment to either write to the speaker or to call her office. In addition to the link for a letter to her provided by Sherri, the phone number for Pelosi's office is 202-225-0100. (I saw an MSNBC poll, indicating that 89% support impeachment. If there was ever a time to be heard, perhaps it's now.)
 
Dear Madam Speaker:

I have just viewed Rep. Kucinich's presentation of Articles of Impeachment, presented to the House on June 9, 2008.

I realize you have stated in the past that impeachment is "off the table," and I realize that, given how close we are to the next election, it may be easier to just ignore these Articles, hold our collective breaths and get on with life in the USA.

I also realize a potential conflict of interest exists for yourself, since impeaching Bush would not be enough; the impeachment of Cheney would be just as essential. This would place you in a somewhat precarious situation that could be construed as "self-serving" in that, according to my understanding, the Speaker is the next in line to become President in a situation such as this. Perhaps an accelerated Presidential election could be scheduled in order to avoid that conflict.

In any event, it is essential that the American PEOPLE be formally separated from this president. Most of us feel betrayed by him, and most of us don't want to attack countries that have never harmed us.

Our economy is in shambles, particularly given the price of oil and oil's byproducts. Soon, there will be no middle class in America. Areas of the USA already more resemble war-torn Iraq, given the damage created by hurricanes, wild fires, floods, tornadoes, etc. Our bridges are crumbling beneath us. American children and pets are being poisoned by products imported from other countries, and there has been no aggressive objection or resolution by any "leaders" to this fact. Some jobs that have been outsourced to foreign countries have been done so very sloppily. Transcription of medical records of American patients is increasingly being performed by residents of India and Pakistan, for example. Their standard of living has increased because they are now earning more money (while American transcriptionists are losing jobs). As a result of their improved lifestyle, particularly in India, the demand for oil has increased dramatically, possibly contributing to its overall increasing cost. However, the most important and possibly dangerous aspect of this particular career is that with each patient's note transcribed is included that patient's name, Social Security number and date of birth. Tell me, if you can, Speaker Pelosi, who is transcribing YOUR medical records, because I can tell you from firsthand experience (having personally transcribed the medical note of a member of Congress, one who was considering running for President) that your medical records are also subject to being transcribed overseas by someone living in a perhaps less "friendly" country, where HIPAA laws do not apply.

Most of the money that George W. Bush has charged to the world's MasterCard for his phony war(s) should have instead been invested into repair of our infrastructures, healthcare reform, job creation and research/creation of alternative fuel options.

Bush must be stopped NOW. I know he will attack Iran, you know he will attack Iran, and we both know he won't seek Congressional approval before doing so. One morning, we will all awaken to the news that the USA has bombed Iran in the middle of the night. That phone WILL ring at 3:00 a.m., and only four words will be spoken: "Mission accomplished, Mr. President."

As a citizen of the USA, I am imploring you to regard Rep. Kucinich's Articles of Impeachment seriously, if for no other reason than to show the world that Americans are GOOD people who do not condone the actions of this shameful, criminally devious leader that was selected to be president in 2000. We must publicly and meaningfully detach ourselves as a people from this man and the crimes that have clearly been committed by him. We owe it to ourselves and our current standing in the world, we owe it to our history, and, perhaps most importantly, we owe it to our future.

This can only be accomplished by Congress.

Marlene M.

Marlene M. 

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Kerboom again by Wig       Century check by Sherri B.       Eating itself by Chris N.
Fox News race-baiting by Angry Annie       Everything is mislabeled by MonkeyMan
Skinned autos by JR Mooneyham       For bloody years now by Ann in the UK
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What journalism isn't by Obese Ballerina       The real enemy by John H.
Take it with a chuckle by Area Man       Can't blame 'Brownie' by Marshall S.


Kerboom again

by Wig

June 12, 2008
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American air strike near Afghan border kills 11 Pakistani troops

With friends like this who needs enemies?

Wig  unknownnews@inbox.com



Century check

by Sherri B.

June 12, 2008
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Two California counties to halt all weddings, gay or not
 
Excerpt: County officials in at least two California counties say they'll stop performing all wedding ceremonies by next week, arguing that they don't have enough resources to marry both gay and straight couples.

Officials in Kern and Butte counties cited budget and staffing constraints as the rationale for halting the ceremonies. But clerks in other counties say that claim is specious. Some activists went further, arguing that the decision to stop the ceremonies amounts to poorly disguised discrimination against gay and lesbian couples.

Oh help me, what century are we in?

Sherri B. 

  I lived in Bakersfield (Kern County) once, just for a few months. They're living in about the 17th Century, but with modern plumbing.

Helen & Harry  unknownnews@inbox.com



Fox News race-baiting

by Angry Annie

June 12, 2008
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Fox News's Morris wonders whether Obama is
"pro-American" or "some sort of sleeper agent"


This is not a smear Fox News would use on a white person.

Angry Annie  unknownnews@inbox.com



Everything is mislabeled

by MonkeyMan

June 12, 2008
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Re Chronic pancreatitis

When you apply for disability, they deny all claims the first time. Only on the second or third application is it really considered. Brace yourself for a long bureaucratic nightmare.

I have spent the majority of this past year at the hospital bedside of one or another friend. My best friend just left ICU after 2 and 1/2 months to go to Rehab.

It seems all my friends are getting diagnosed and I keep waiting to see what my challenge will be. It's feels like one of the reality shows where they spin a wheel or pull a slip of paper out to let each contestant know what they are up against. So far, I am in great health, but I keep waiting. I eat my veggies, I swim 4 times a week, I don't smoke... But we all die of something. I hope I get something that isn't painful, but if I do... I hope I can be as brave as you.

I work in the environmental department and next to the man who is in charge of the air program. He has severe allergies to airborne irritants... as in he is in charge of inspecting paint booths, etc. but is highly allergic. Again, I get the sense that I am walking around in a planet sized asylum.

Sometimes it feels like I live in opposite world, everything is exactly opposite to or not related to what it says. The label says beans, but you open it up and it is peanuts, but no one around me sees the problem. Everything is mislabeled. Leaders follow the polls, healthcare is really about being sick, junk food may not be good for you but at least my chips don't have Salmonella, the soda machine sells water, I wash the plastic trash leftover from my frozen lunch so I can recycle it, gas cost per gallon is about to exceed the minimum wage per hour, and all the while these "United" states can't agree on the definition of marriage. The "air" guy can't breath, newscasters sing and dance, people watch reality shows to escape (??), and Rachel Ray can get a 1 hour show but is an international terrorist? We can fly an 80 ft. rebel flag but that barely discernable scarf has GOT TO GO! WTF! Disability "Benefits" aren't enough to live on, the moral voices are connected to those who commit immoral deeds, lawyers are crooks, cops hurt people, and somewhere along the way the "white" "house" became "black" "water" and I keep looking up the meanings of the words that are on the label... but they don't fit. Maybe if I start re-naming everything so that the words match, I won't go insane.

Is it me?

MonkeyMan 

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Skinned autos

by JR Mooneyham

June 12, 2008
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This is the best and clearest scientific article on the origins of homosexuality I've ever seen.

Finding the switch
 
Excerpt: Homosexuality may persist because the associated genes convey surprising advantages on homosexuals' family members.

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What if cars had soft, stretchable skins like people or animals?

"When a shape-shifting concept car made of neoprene turns up, you can be near-certain that flame-surfaced BMW design fuhrer Chris Bangle won't be far away."

http://www.topgear.com/content/news/stories/2936/

YouTube - BMW GINA Light Visionary Model: Premiere

Keep in mind the inflatable bodied cars we've previously seen articles about would be natural platforms for skins like these.

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There's evidence that some of the so-called internet anonymity protection/PC security software and services available on the market are provided by CIA-backed companies. Evidence published by news media over the past 10 years or so. Naturally some of those NOT named may secretly be so, as well.

JR Mooneyham  (www.jrmooneyham.com/) 

  I'd be flabbergasted if some of the so-called security software isn't CIA compatible in every way.

Helen & Harry  unknownnews@inbox.com



For bloody years now

by Ann in the UK

June 12, 2008
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Re Sick of it all

Yes. Sick to death of it. Every bloody second of every bloody day. For bloody years now.

Why hasn't there been a run on the not so White House? An uprising? Mass civil unrest? Screaming and shouting from the rooftops?

My guess is the general US populace is so busy watching Heroes they haven't got time to become one...

Yours in sick-sodden solidarity,

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Military veep

by Chris M.

June 12, 2008
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Obama veep vetters look at former Pentagon leaders
 
Excerpt: Barack Obama is considering former top Pentagon leaders among his possible running mates, which would address his lack of foreign policy experience and balance the military bonafides of a GOP ticket led by a war hero.

Two senators who consulted Tuesday with the Democratic presidential candidate's vice presidential vetting team said retired military generals were among the names they discussed.

"What can you do with a general
When he stops being a general?
Oh, what can you do with a general who retires?

Who's got a job for a general
When he stops being a general?
They all get a job but a general no one hires

They fill his chest with medals while he's across the foam
And they spread the crimson carpet when he comes marching home
The next day someone hollers when he comes into view
"Here comes the general" and they all say "General who?"
They're delighted that he came
But they can't recall his name

Nobody thinks of assigning him
When they stop wining and dining him
It seems this country never has enjoyed
So many one and two and three and four star generals
Unemployed"

Well, except for military contractors, PACs and maybe as a running mate, that is. This begs the question...does an old general trump McCain, an old Vietnam POW ??

Chris M.  unknownnews@inbox.com



Will Rogers wisdom

by O'Malley

June 12, 2008
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Re Right under our noses

Sorry for the undeserved criticism, I too, tried to seek out true answers while so many others were happy with what they were told.

I'm a child of the '60's and raising teenage sons alone I reminded them daily that, while they thought they had all the answers, they didn't even have half the questions yet. I taught them to be free thinkers and tried to instill the wisdom of people like Will Rogers -- just plain old common sense -- one of the many values we've lost over the years to a society of "sheepeople". Sit in front of Wal-Mart and watch the cud chewing bovines walk out with carts that are filled with STUFF that will be in a landfill or yard sale within the next year -- because a TV commercial told us that we couldn't live without this or that product.

Oh, I'm so sorry, my "soap box" slid out when I wasn't looking and I can rant on this subject for hours.

Once again, my apology for the undeserved "we" and thank you for your reply.

O'Malley 

 Absolutely nothing to apologize for, kind sir, and I hope you'll stand on our soap box again. The "we" thing is just a pet peeve of mine. I long to live in a nation where we could be proud to be part of that national "we".

Helen & Harry  unknownnews@inbox.com



What journalism isn't

by Obese Ballerina

June 12, 2008
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Two California counties to halt all weddings, gay or not
 
Excerpt: County officials in at least two California counties say they'll stop performing all wedding ceremonies by next week, arguing that they don't have enough resources to marry both gay and straight couples.

Officials in Kern and Butte counties cited budget and staffing constraints as the rationale for halting the ceremonies. But clerks in other counties say that claim is specious. Some activists went further, arguing that the decision to stop the ceremonies amounts to poorly disguised discrimination against gay and lesbian couples.

If I owned the SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE, this reporter would be fired. It's not "impartial journalism", it's simply stupid to pretend that the counties' claim is plausible, and to look for some spokesperson to contradict it. It's blather, akin to saying Kern County has announced that day is night and night is day, but some experts disagree. Long sigh. Reporters are supposed to report facts, and it's a fact that the counties' announcements are bogus. A reporter who can't say that is someone who needs to be in a different line of work.

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The real enemy

by John H.

June 12, 2008
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Re Tell it to the brass

Smartasswhiteboy: Well said -- and that's not even taking in the unknown (and unaccounted-for) billions going into black projects. So what if we don't have a gee-whiz super particle accelerator capable of knocking down a ship circling Alpha Centauri by 2075? We need military research within reason and at the right time, but right now the real enemy is the economy and how we are being robbed by the energy companies while our atmosphere gets more unlivable by the day and Georgie Boy and The Dick (read like "The Donald") just laugh at it all... they're almost out scott free and their buddies made out well. All at our expense.

OK kids, time to put down that Nintendo. There's work to do.....

John H.  unknownnews@inbox.com



Eating itself

by Chris N.

June 12, 2008
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Re Yes, Capitalism has succeeded!

Ultimately, Capitalism has succeeded in destroying the very thing it thrives on, the economy which is part of the human ecology.

Chris N.  unknownnews@inbox.com



Take it with a chuckle

by Area Man

June 12, 2008
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Re Where your confusion lays

MonkeyMan, I can't tell whether you're pulling my leg or you're a walking object lesson in missing the point, but I like Helen & Harry's advice: The primaries are over. So I take it with a chuckle and tell myself you're probably kidding. You seem like a decent soul and I don't want to argue.

Area Man 

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Can't blame 'Brownie'

by Marshall S.

June 12, 2008
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Prime minister apologizes to native Canadians
 
Excerpt: In a historic speech, Prime Minister Stephen Harper apologized Wednesday to Canada's native peoples for the longtime government policy of forcing their children to attend state-funded schools aimed at assimilating them.

The treatment of children at the schools where they were often physically and sexually abused was a sad chapter in the country's history, he said from the House of Commons in an address carried live across Canada.

But Canada has gone a step farther, offering those who were taken from their families compensation for the years they attended the residential schools. The offer was part of a lawsuit settlement.

Now it's the US's turn to apologize for abusing it's ethnic minorities. Prez Bush, anything intelligent to say on the matter? I thought not.

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9th Circuit's chief judge posted sexually explicit materials on his website

Don't have to worry about this judge believing in the freedom of speech.

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FEMA gives away $85 million of supplies for Katrina victims

We can't blame "Brownie" this time. All that's left to blame is Bush.
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Antidepressants being used more among U.S. troops on front lines

Give over-stressed soldiers drugs along with their machine guns? Better get the military lawyers ready.

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