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Criminalizing black life by Theo Lipschitz       With fresh ginger by Herb Ruhs, MD
Pop goes the missile by JR Mooneyham       "The Year of the Jackpot", by RAH by Pavel C.
Truth in advertising by Mike E.       Religion is bad for kids by MonkeyMan
No news on the cable "news" shows by Mahdi Abdul Finkelstein
A society of the destitute by Chris D.       Still in the ring by Sherri B.       Fact is by Angry Annie


Criminalizing black life

by Theo Lipschitz

June 27, 2008
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Slavery by Another Name
 
Excerpt: Almost as soon as the Civil War ended, powerful white politicians, plantation owners and industrialists began re-instituting slavery through laws intended "to criminalize black life," Blackmon writes.

Countless thousands of blacks were arrested on the flimsiest of charges, thrown into jail and, in effect, sold to plantations, railroads, mines, factories, mills and lumber camps.

In addition, millions of blacks, if they wanted to work, were forced to do so under labor contracts that prevented them from leaving without written permission from their employers. Many of these men and women were also treated like slaves, subject to the harshest discipline. ...

By 1930, at least one state, Georgia, "had more forced labor slaves than ever," he writes. The use of labor on farms and in factories and mines as well as onerous employment contracts that were tantamount to slavery continued in some parts of the South until well into the 1940s.

THIS explains a lot.

I don't believe slavery has ended, either. Consider the 2 million Americans in the American gulags -- federal, state, county and municipal jails -- and the rise of prison labor as an economic force (to say nothing of Corrections Corp. and the vast prison guard workforce.)

Prisoners are working for years, paid almost nothing, and why? Because of the drug wars -- and perhaps, because they are the wrong color, maybe they don't fit into the system created for them by the society which came before.

Once a person goes into "The System" it is very hard to get out of it. Many don't. There are few job opportunities, and especially few good job opportunities for ex-prisoners. And starting from broke is hard even without a police record.

I cannot imagine how difficult it would be to be a poor black man in Alabama with no money and a police record.

And I can't imagine why people stay in the Deep South -- opportunities are much better in California, the culture is a lot different. But people tend to stay put. Sigh.

Theo Lipschitz  unknownnews@inbox.com



Pop goes the missile

by JR Mooneyham

June 27, 2008
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I'm sure glad I don't live near a port where nuke subs dock.

Could nuclear warheads go off 'like popcorn'?

JR Mooneyham  (www.jrmooneyham.com/)  unknownnews@inbox.com



"The Year of the Jackpot", by RAH

by Pavel C.

June 27, 2008
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 ["The Year of the Jackpot" is a short story by Robert A. Heinlein, in which "a trend- following statistician finds romance and a disturbing conclusion." --H&HH] 

Is this the jackpot year? Probably not unless Bush (or Israel) attacks Iran. But everything which can go wrong is going wrong at the same time -- which is a paradox because the stated purpose of time is precisely to keep everything from happening at the same time!

Here is a tremendously interesting article by Jim Willie:

USFed blinks: Propaganda & bluffs

The gist is that the Federal Reserve is not defending the U.S. dollar -- real interest rates are minus 2%, or even more if the real data were used in the computations minus the fudge factors. Many people think that the weak dollar is responsible for high commodity prices.

The problem is that if oil stays high, or goes even higher, then a tsunami of debts will be reneged on by consumers -- cars, credit cards, home equity, first and second mortgages, etc. It is a chain reaction which will totally undo the Fed's attempts to rescue the banking system! But if the Fed raises interest rates, or so the thinking goes, even by a mere 0.25% the economy will surely slip into a deep recession and cause those same debt reneges. Catch 22!

The truth is, IMO, that the Fed isn't responsible for the value of the dollar. Their mandate is price stability and maximum employment commensurate with a non-accelerating rate of inflation. The Treasury -- and Congress, and Bush -- are responsible for the dollar. During the past 8 years they expanded the national debt by $4.5 trillion. That money went to develop the economies of Asia and emerging markets, the citizens of which are now buying things made from commodities, which drives up the prices.

Regardless, the U.S. is in deep doo-doo. Goldman Sachs put a "conviction sell list" recommendation on both GM and Citigroup today. Gold rose $32 in one session! People who followed the late Harry Browne's advice survived the market crash today in good fashion.

FYI, things don't usually happen at once, or even in a week, and it is possible that a global policy response will be generated to help the US and the US dollar. The reason why that is hard to imagine, though, is that the Bush Regime is universally hated and more than half of the countries around the world are anxious to see the U.S. economy collapse -- just so long as they are not seen to be directly responsible for engineering the event.

And... these symbols are looking very "constructive". Fortune favors the bold, but of course, discretion is the better part of valor and cowardice is the better part of discretion, so use good judgement :-)

GLD       IAU       SLV       GDX

Pavel C.  unknownnews@inbox.com



Truth in advertising

by Mike E.

June 27, 2008
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U.S. border agents copying contents of travelers' laptops

Why don't we get rid of the torch, and just have the Statue of Liberty stand in the harbor and flip off the world?

Mike E.  unknownnews@inbox.com



Religion is bad for kids

by MonkeyMan

June 27, 2008
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King James was a pedophile. The decision was made to include in the bible verses about male + male intercourse as a tongue in cheek criticism of him. Another thing I absolutely am baffled by in this world are the millions who choose to live their life by this one book, yet they know so little about it. The know nothing of the books that were not included, nothing of the original verbiage and meaning. The church is still selling passages to heaven and people line up for them.

I don't trust any God who wants my money. The bible says to give to the poor, not the church. I don't trust any God who allows children to be raped.

Mohammed was a pedophile. The Muslim religion is based on the teachings of murderer and pedophile.

Buddhism is supposed to be all about enlightenment... in practice it is about liberation by self-denial. Weird. They are not allowed to have sex. There are claims that the Monks have a system almost like the Romans, where the younger boys are expected to "service" the men. um...yuck! Publicly they insist that they don't have sex at all. <dubious frown>

The Rabbis that abuse children rarely make the headlines for some reason...?

How do we know the 5 Supreme Courts judges that reversed the death penalty in Louisiana for child rape aren't pedophiles? Can we use FISA to take a look in their laptops?

Is "religion" another codeword or opposite word that I don't understand? Dictionary.com has a few definitions of which most include "common beliefs and practices." So the term fits if they are all winking and smiling, and placing the children up on the altar, not to be sacrificed to whatever God but to whatever man has power over them. No wonder a lot of the religious people are against abortion. Children have to be born to be abused or to be programmed to be abusers. Puts a different spin on the tale of the Lion that is made to lay down with the Lamb. Is that code for predator and prey?

I think me and my God will continue to talk over coffee and I will leave church to the oblivious. Now I know some will say "Not my church..." or my religion or my sect or whatever. But I personally can't belong to any group that thinks they speak for God. I can't belong to any group that can't use a little common sense and backbone to oust the Godless ones from their midst. I can't belong to any group that is against consenting adults marrying but for non-consenting underage, "spiritual" wives. You want to influence legislation against consenting adults, but let the Latter Day Saints do whatever they want behind locked gates. Why aren't the "good" people picketing the gates of these compounds instead of harassing owners of adult bookstores who card people to make sure they are adults?

I always thought that I would regret not having children, but now I think it is a blessing. I will kill anyone who hurt a child of mine. There is no room in my world for these people.

My last living grandparent died in 1988. I think with her passing, so went common sense and unwavering character. She spoke out without fear. She was a mother, a teacher, a writer, a gardener, and in my memory, a hero. She had clear vision and direct speech. Can we not just start telling it like it is? Maybe in tribute to George Carlin, we can shatter the hall of mirrors and be blunt.

Rebel against false labels like the "moral" voice. We're not having a housing crisis or an energy crisis, we're having corruption repercussions. Global warming? N-stage life on earth. Our soft language is what allows so many to bury their heads in the sand.

I had just planned to write a line or two, and it got away from me again.

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Re Mostly male

I agree. That's why we have to start calling it a man's issue. As long as it is labeled a "woman's issue" it will be brushed aside. We think in language. My thinking is that if we change the language, we can change the thinking.

MonkeyMan 

  Sounds like you've got your grandmother's common sense and direct speaking style. And I don't particularly disagree with much of what you say here, but I'm going to gently disagree with the subtext: It's not pertinent to me whether King James or Mohammed were pedophiles -- it's been centuries and the statute of limitations has expired. And similarly, I don't see anything productive in suggesting that Supreme Court justices who side against executing a child rapist might be pedophiles themselves. These are just smears, distractions from the issue at hand.

It's too sweeping to say that "religion is bad for kids". Lots of kids survive a religious upbringing just fine. Religion itself isn't child abuse, and to whatever extent religion is a problem it's a problem that can't be solved without a wildly totalitarian "solution". Religion needs to be seen with a "que sera sera" attitude -- government should be basically disinterested in religion, so long as the believers aren't hurting anybody but themselves.

When somebody's screwing kids, of course call the cops, arrest the perps and try them and send 'em to prison if they're guilty. Religion is often a shield that protects pedophiles and other criminals from prosecution, and that's outrageous, but nobody has to fly to Texas or Utah to protest religion-backed child abuse. Just picket your nearest Catholic church.

Helen & Harry 

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No news on the cable "news" shows

by Mahdi Abdul Finkelstein

June 27, 2008
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Half of America is either underwater or on fire or broke, living in their cars and under bridges. The U.S. is a disaster zone and still the cable TV "news" is spending hours and hours and hours giving us partisan opinions instead of actual news.  ... Click for more ... 

Mahdi Abdul Finkelstein  unknownnews@inbox.com



With fresh ginger

by Herb Ruhs, MD

June 27, 2008
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Re Chick peas with turmeric

Thanks for the recipe. I take my turmeric as tea with fresh ginger.

Herb Ruhs, MD  unknownnews@inbox.com



A society of the destitute

by Chris D.

June 27, 2008
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What strength does a society of the destitute have? How does having millions of people with no money and a few with all the money in the country help society at large? Why are those who amass great amounts of wealth praised while those who scrape by are being admonished or blamed outright for their situation? What will become of us if we continue to stagnate like this?  ... Click for more ... 

Chris D.  unknownnews@inbox.com



Still in the ring

by Sherri B.

June 27, 2008
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Reading the news today I realized something that is probably going through everyone's heads. Obama will not save the sinking ship of this country. Even if he wins he loses. If McCain wins he loses because he's too stupid/insane to make proper decisions regarding this country.

So, in a nutshell, by November we'll all have the solid understanding that we have all lost. Every other country will fear us or be disgusted by us. Now what? I ask my friends what "battles" they've chosen and these are the results:

Some want to take on the incredible task of unseating every member of office that doesn't support them.

Some want to take on anyone that doesn't support, advocate, and protect children's rights.

Some want to do the same for elders.

Some want to work only to achieve proper medical care for vets.

Some want to eradicate dirty cops.

Some want to eradicate dirty city officials.

Some want to end the abuse of the homeless and fight for their proper care.

Some want to stop all outgoing jobs and monies to other countries by removing from office those that live to cater.

Some want to completely dismantle the Media and FCC as it currently stands and restructure it.

Some have chosen battling insurance agencies, HMO's, PPO's, hospital legislation, and support hospital care in general.

Of course there are those that want all of our troops home right now.

There are those that will fight for clean air, water, and safe food.

Let's not forget those that are about to wage chaos on those that regulate our gas and utility prices.

Then there are those that may be taking on the most dangerous wars of all-those that fight for the separation of church and state and those that fight racism.

It will be chaos my friends. There will be death, fear, hopelessness, and dismay at what our government is truly capable of.

But the time has arrived. Perhaps your particular battle is not on this list. You may say why bother, we'll be nuked anyway. You just may be right. We possibly should be saying goodbye and I love you to our loved ones until the bombs drop. Then once the launches are started, have a beer and settle in to watch that which will quickly erase us from this earth.

BUT we may yet win. Boxers know it ain't over 'til it's over. Until then-get your gloves on-round one is about to be called.

It's time to head to the ring.

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Very scary.
Is your city going to be bottled water-free?

It's scary because:
Drug-laced drinking water: a fix on tap?

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Re In case of WWIII

Ah that's where you and I differ. Adult on adult crime is one thing. Adult on child crime is quite another. For this I very much would not want my tax dollars wasted to house these people for ten to twenty or more years. I'd personally like for the warden to drive to Orchard Supply buy a rope, get ride of the offender, and use my tax dollars to keep kids safe and educated. Child crime is cyclical. Child rape often goes from generation to generation ruining families for years and years.

Sherri B. 

  Nothing wrong with wanting to hang people. Heck, I've got a list in my head with hundreds of names on it, and I want to see all their ankles flapping loose in the wind, but I'd buy the rope at a mom-and-pop hardware store, never a chain outlet.

That said, the purpose of a justice system (in theory though not in America) is to remove the anger and vigilante aspects, and deliver fair trials and reasonable punishment for crime.

Helen & Harry  unknownnews@inbox.com



Fact is

by Angry Annie

June 27, 2008
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CNN's Graham asserts as fact that Obama is "the most liberal" senator

Senator Bernie Sanders is a frickin' socialist, literally. And I can easily think of a dozen Senators from Kennedy to Feingold who are much, much more liberal than the utterly middle-of-the-road Barack Obama. Fact is, Republicans have trotted out "most liberal" bullsh*t like this about every Democratic candidate for President since Michael Dukakis, and fact is, liberal Democrats aren't allowed anywhere near the Presidential ticket. Obama is not a liberal by any sane definition of the word.

Angry Annie  unknownnews@inbox.com


   
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