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What used to be the POST

by Really Annoyed       Tuesday, July 15, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

WASHINGTON POST offers 13-part series on unsolved murder of Chandra Levy

And they wonder why newspapers' circulations are plunging. This is crap I wouldn't watch on a free TV newscast, and I certainly wouldn't pay to read it in what used to be the WASHINGTON POST.

Really Annoyed
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Loads

by Sherri B.       Tuesday, July 15, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

Lawmakers want U.S.-made flags

Oh yes this will help LOADS.

Sherri B.
Quick, polish the proper symbolism (but don't address any of the actual issues) ...
Helen & Harry
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The problem with evolution

by SirJ       Tuesday, July 15, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

Re Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and evolution by SirJ

I'm no expert in science either. I am fastidious. Doing an experiment in a lab and calling it "evolution" of traits doesn't change what it really is... artificial selection. Humans have been doing this for thousands of years. You breed a dog with another dog and get... a dog. The new dog will have different traits than the ancestors, you can select what traits you want and make them more dominant. Keep breeding the dogs and you get more dogs. Nobody to my knowledge has ever broken out and created a new species from breeding. Even if they had, naysayers would chalk it up to artificial selection.

Darwin's book is called "Origin of Species." It theorizes natural selection creates new species from existing ones. If you want confirmation of the theory, nothing less than creating a new species works for me. Anyway, I didn't find anything in those lab experiments which offers any new support for evolution. There is a problem with the theory of evolution which supporters never seem to talk about. Species are persistent. They have lifetimes in the millions of years despite wide changes in the environment. Natural selection and mutation should cause them to constantly change, but that's not what happens. Consider these changes caused by the last ice age which ended about 8,000 years ago as explained on Wikipedia's ice age page:
 
Excerpt: Although the last glacial period ended more than 8,000 years ago, its effects can still be felt today. For example, the moving ice carved out landscape in Canada, Greenland, northern Eurasia and Antarctica. The erratic boulders, till, drumlins, eskers, kettle lakes, moraines, cirques, horns, etc., are typical features left behind by the glaciers.

The weight of the ice sheets was so great that they deformed the earth's crust and mantle. After the ice sheets melted, the ice-covered land rebounded (see Post-glacial rebound). Due to the high viscosity of the Earth, the flow of mantle rocks which controls the rebound process is very slow — at a rate of about 1 cm/year near the center of rebound today.

During glaciation, water was taken from the oceans to form the ice at high latitudes, thus global sea level drops by about 120 meters, exposing the continental shelves and forming land-bridges between land-masses for animals to migrate.

So what do we get for all that massive change? Animals migrate! Big whoop. The wooly mammoth didn't make it. What about a whole new pack of species from all this devastating change in the environment? It didn't happen.

Until the theory of evolution can explain why species aren't in constant flux, you will easily get objectors who deny there is any change at all.

SirJ
Until this moment, each and every person I've known who disputed evolution was dumber than sticks. It's entirely different, exhilarating even, to read someone who has doubts but isn't stupid.

And I have nothing to point-counterpoint you with, SirJ. Even when I was regurgitating the basics of evolution to pass biology in high school, I never gave a damn about any of it beyond taking the test. Politics I care about, but science, not so much. My ignorance is profound, skepticism is generally a good thing, and there's just nothing I can say on evolution's behalf that wouldn't boil down to faith.
Helen & Harry
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Pissed and f**ked

by Don Nash       Tuesday, July 15, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

This is the cover of next week's NEW YORKER magazine. The cover is done by one Barry Blitt. Blitt thinks he's being funny. Oh yeah, he's a funny bastard alright. I saw the thing and just got pissed. Yeah, one more thing to get all riled up about. Had Blitt taken some jabs at the McLunatic, maybe his cover could be taken on face value> Shit, I want to do a cover for NEW YORKER magazine. I'd be able to piss off the planet and do it with graphic style and brilliance. Hang on, I'm going to hold my breath and wait....

Please notify next of kin during the interim.

Don Nash
Hadn't heard that, oy and oy again, and holy crap. Really. The cover of the NEW YORKER. Jesus fuck a duck. Sigh. If that's what the NEW YORKER wants as its face we are so fucked.
Helen & Harry

Yeah, we're screwed and sideways without the courtesy of Vaseline. Christ, I just hate that! So, the NEW YORKER magazine is going to vilify the Obamas (his and hers), champion the pending nuclearization of Iran (would that be vaporization?), and we's just supposed to sit here on the sidelines and mums the non-word? Oh shit-on-a-fucking-moldy-crisp, I ain't sittin on no goddamned sideline while freaks like the NEW YORKER and the fucking nazionists get away with planetary murder! Oh FUCKIN' A NO WAY! Now we start some serious screaming.

Christ, George the fucking genocidal lunatic is GOING TO NUKE IRAN! That stupid as brick shit is going to do it! What in the fuck is America's "military" leadership thinking? Oh wait a minute, oxymoron rears it's butt-ugly head again.

Christ, Seymour Hersh works for the NEW YORKER. Wow, does this mean that the nazionists have got to Seymour? Oh shit, that can't be a good thing. Yeah, we're fucked! We are so fucked!

Ummm, is it time for that serious bloody civilian uprising? I'm thinking it might be about time to take off the freaking gloves. Oh yes and for the fine treasonous dogs that're reading my emails, FUCK YOU AND FUCK YOUR ASS-UGLY MAMAS AND ALL YOUR EVEN UGLIER THAN THAT BROTHERS AND SISTERS! YOUR ASS-UGLY PRESIDENT AND VICE-PRESIDENT AND THE FREAK-UGLY U.S. CONGRESS AND THE COLON-UGLY SUPREME COURT! Of course I'm meaning CIADIAFBIDHSNSA AND THE CLOWNS OF FEMA AND TSA! Gosh, you think you dumb-asses can figure out my meaning? I am so fucking pissed!

Don Nash
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Greedhead's crack

by Mr. Chuckles       Tuesday, July 15, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

Re Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and evolution by SirJ
After reading Mr. Chuckles' message about GLD now being optionable, I realized Fannie & Freddie as so oversold at this point they would be a much better buy.
I won't say that you are wrong about FNM or FRE from a trading viewpoint, having learned the hard way to receive contrary opinions as information to think deeply about — arguing against a contrary opinion often indicates a mental blind spot and foretells losses with nasty consequences.

I will mention that the idea of GLD options is something I provided as a "humanitarian gesture". The odds are much more favorable than on a lottery ticket. And if someone had enough money for just one mortgage payment, and then planned to squat and wait for foreclosure, I might say take the option and see if your life changes :-) Haha.

I don't think of gold as a "good buy". A good buy would be an ounce of stinkweed, or Starbucks gift cards all around for a posse of beautiful women who saved your life by stripping naked and diving in to rescue you from drowning, or somesuch.

Gold is horrible, nasty stuff. If you've ever seen an ounce of it, you know it is a joke. It is like a Greedhead's crack. Don't get hooked, is my advice — there is no escape from the addiction. Many men have lost their souls over it. And their lives.

Re: FNM/FRE. They're even worse than gold. Here are three articles from today (I favor a government intervention and shutting their asses down as soon as possible as described in the first article):

Are we entering a financial meltdown?

Fannie, Freddie deflected risk warnings

Fannie plan a `disaster' to Rogers; Goldman says sell

Mr. Chuckles
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Galileo and Galapagos

by MonkeyMan       Tuesday, July 15, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

Re Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and evolution by SirJ

Here is a link, if you really want to pursue it. I think the misunderstanding is that a single individual organism can evolve and that isn't the case.

The best example would be to take a look at Darwin's work in the Galapogos Islands with the finches. You can see how that same species evolved into different species in response to different environments and food sources.

Evolution is easily verifiable, it just isn't mentioned in the Bible. Remember the church used to believe that the Earth, not the Sun, was the center of the galaxy and imprisoned Galileo for saying otherwise. So now when creationists argue against evolution, global warming etc. I personally don't see that they have any credibility.

Hope this helps.

MonkeyMan

P.S. I personally didn't like Tony Snow, but I feel sad for his family.
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The revenge angle

by JR Mooneyham       Tuesday, July 15, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

Ex-lawmaker also says Bush sought revenge for assassination try

This is actually old news. The revenge angle was being talked about way back in 2002:

Bush calls Saddam 'the guy who tried to kill my dad'

I had this reference stashed away in The immense risks and appalling costs to humanity of excessive military, intelligence, and security expenditures — and how to reduce both.

JR Mooneyham  (www.jrmooneyham.com/)
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Moving on

by Herb Ruhs, MD       Tuesday, July 15, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

Re Poor man's EMP by The Canadian

We should probably move on on beyond the topic of high altitude nuclear explosions, but since I introduced the topic I will (hopefully) be allowed the last word.

I agree with the Canadian that the most probable reaction to the use of these few weapons is a land or atmospheric use of nuclear weapons by the US and perhaps the UK and Israel as well. The actual decision makers of these countries have thoroughly proven their insanity and it is reasonable to expect that these troglodytes could strike somewhere (not necessarily at the author of the high altitude explosions) if only in a fit of pique. After all Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, being one of the few regimes that are on the short list of impossible co-conspirators, but retaliation was ordered regardless.

A couple of thoughts on this possible retaliatory nuclear strike scenario. First, it might not happen. The disruption after such an attack might very well introduce an element of indecision and delay.

Secondly, even if it did happen it would be unlikely to provoke an all out nuclear war with the use of hundreds or even thousands of weapons, unless of course the mad men with their fingers on the buttons decide to attack Russia or China.

Anything less than all out nuclear war, which remains an unlikely scenario since the mad men will be unlikely to abandon the hope of retaining some power and would not have an interest in destroying the world they want to enslave, would still be better than remaining on the course we currently are on. Even in the event of limited use of nuclear weapons, as sad and tragic as that would be, the consequences would be less severe than any conceivable scenario that sees the status quo work through to its logical conclusions which will be even more catastrophic as the climate and the environment are irreversibly destroyed (something informed commentators think may have already happened) and thereby creating a realistic threat of the end of our species.

Of course some might think that extinction of homo sapiens sapiens is not a bad idea. Not me.

Herb Ruhs, MD
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Bank runs and eavesdropping

by Kathy Fisher       Tuesday, July 15, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

A while back I asked someone if they saw a run on the banks in the very near future. That person said ''No I don't see this happening''.

Wait, you'll see I'm right!

I'm certain that the bank we cash our checks in, Wachovia, is on that ''WHO'S NEXT LIST''... There WILL be a run on the banks...

U.S. stocks fall; financials drop to lowest in decade

Analysts say more U.S. banks will fail

***           ***           ***
TSA launches investigation to find air marshal who revealed that security is mondo lax
 
Excerpt: "In Iraq, there were a lot of dangerous things, but never have I been so scared [as] when the federal government called me on my home phone and said I want to know about your personal e-mail account and what you have been sending."

Gee, I wonder how TSA got into their private email! Someone should investigate them.

***           ***           ***
Iran ready to hit UK
 
Excerpt: Iran is poised to launch terror attacks in Britain if the West presses ahead with military strikes against its nuclear facilities, intelligence experts warned last night.

This could be the next False Flag event that's suppose to make us all forget about the economy and focus on hating the evil ones!

Kathy Fisher  (klfisher@webtv.net)
It takes some serious propaganda spinning to portray the utterly expected human response "If you attack me I'll fight back" as the headline "Iran ready to hit UK" ...
Helen & Harry
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Another day at the hospital

by Cassandra       Tuesday, July 15, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

Been spending a lot of time at the hospital hanging out with friends whose parents are there. One stepfather [colon cancer] was dismissed on July 4 after spending 3 weeks in bed without aftercare instructions or a walker, and with a tube still connected to his heart and a feeding tube. He'd been keeping down solid food for 48 hours. He took a bad fall his first night home and gashed his head but managed not to reopen his incision. The stepdaughter overheard nurses saying that people were being sent home early since they didn't want to fully staff the holiday weekend, but I'm sure it was insurance too.

These are the people who are lucky enough to have insurance. I guess if one has colon cancer and no insurance they toss you out with your guts in one hand and an IV pole in the other after a day or so. Since the bus doesn't stop right there, they might even call a cab, who knows?

Cassandra
That's a hell of a health horror story ... and certainly it can't be uncommon.
Helen & Harry
Fortunately Friend's Stepdad did have a walker and a few things — inherited from a recently deceased relative — at home. The stores that sell medical supplies sure weren't open on the 4th. Of course, one doesn't remember the walker when it's 3 am and the dogs bark and one is drugged out of one's skull...

Cassandra
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Letter to the bank

by Siskiyousis       Tuesday, July 15, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

Re Low to mid 10,000s by Marlene

Now, Revenge on the Bank... Shown below is an actual letter that was sent to an East Coast bank by an 86 year old woman. The bank manager thought it amusing enough to have it published in the NEW YORK TIMES.
 
Dear Sir:

I am writing to thank you for bouncing the check from my 25 year old account, with which I endeavored to pay my plumber last month.

By my calculations, three nanoseconds must have elapsed between his presenting the check and the arrival in my account of the funds required to honor it.

I refer, of course, to the automatic deposit of my monthly pension increment, an arrangement which, I admit, has been in place for only eight years. You are to be commended for seizing that brief window of opportunity, and also for debiting my account $30 by way of penalty for the inconvenience caused your bank. You probably had no opportunity to note that the money market account which I have been maintaining at your facility for almost as long had, at over $100,000 current value, enough funds to pay several plumbers.

My thankfulness springs from the manner in which this incident has also caused me to rethink my errant financial ways. I noticed that whereas I personally answer your telephone calls and letters as they arrive, when I try to contact you, I am confronted by the impersonal, overcharging, pre-recorded, faceless entity which your bank has become.

From now on, I, like you, choose only to deal with a flesh-and-blood person. My mortgage and loan repayments will therefore and hereafter no longer be automatic, but will arrive at your bank, by check, addressed personally and confidentially to an employee contact at your bank whom you must nominate and inform me as to his or her name.

Be aware that it is an offense under the Postal Act for any other person to open such an envelope. Please find attached an Contact Application contract which I require your chosen employee to complete. I am sorry it runs to eight pages, but in order that I know as much about him or her as your bank knows about me, there seems no alternative. Please note that all copies of his or her medical history must be countersigned by a Notary Public, and the mandatory details of his/her financial situation (income, debts, assets and liabilities) must be accompanied by documented proof. In due course, at MY convenience, I will issue your employee with a PIN number which he/she must quote in dealings with me. I regret that it cannot be shorter than 28 digits but, again, I have modeled it on the number of button presses required of me to access my account balances on your phone bank service. As they say, imitation is the most sincere form of flattery.

Let me level the playing field even further.

When you call me, please press buttons as follows:

[IMMEDIATELY AFTER DIALING, PRESS THE STAR (*) BUTTON FOR ENGLISH]

#1. To make an appointment to see me

#2. To query a missing payment.

#3. To transfer the call to my living room in case I am there.

#4. To transfer the call to my bedroom in case I am sleeping

#5. To transfer the call to my toilet in case I am attending to nature.

#6. To transfer the call to my mobile phone if I am not at home

#7. To leave a message on my computer, a password to access my computer is required. Password will be communicated to you at a later date to the Authorized Contact mentioned earlier.

#8. To return to the main menu and to listen to options 1through 7.

#9. To make a general complaint or inquiry. The contact will then be put on hold, pending the attention of my automated answering service.

#10. This is a second reminder to press* for English. While this may, on occasion, involve a lengthy wait, uplifting music will play for the duration of the call.

Regrettably, but again following your example, I must also levy an establishment fee to cover the setting up of this new arrangement. Please place $30 in my checking account to cover this.

May I wish you a happy, if ever so slightly less prosperous New Year?

Your Humble Client,

Remember: This was written by an 86 year old woman. And by the way, don't make old ladies mad. They don't like being old in the first place, so it doesn't take much to piss them off.

Siskiyousis
Our reliable sources at Snopes say it wasn't really written by an 86-year-old woman, but that's mostly irrelevant — it's funny as hell and appreciated.
Helen & Harry

I had a feeling it was too good to be true; but it is still the sort of letter my mother could and would have written. Like the one she fired off at Truman when he fired MacArthur.

Siskiyousis
My mom or grandma could've written a letter that might have been almost as funny, but the laughs would've been unintentional, from all the sanctimonious Bible quotes and Christian catchphrases they'd have included. Very, very religious they were, and I got very, very tired of it. On many Sunday mornings, I briefly thank heavens I'm not going to church.
Helen & Harry
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Easy to forget

by Vanekl       Tuesday, July 15, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

Re Gut-check: The courage it took to stand up for civil rights by Randall P.

It's easy to forget that over a billion people still live with severely curtailed civil rights, and the stakes are just as high (and bloody).

Vanekl
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Dialogue  for
Tuesday, July 15, 2008 

What used to be the POST by Really Annoyed
Loads by Sherri B.
The problem with evolution by SirJ
Pissed and f**ked by Don Nash
Greedhead's crack by Mr. Chuckles
Galileo and Galapagos by MonkeyMan
The revenge angle by JR Mooneyham
Moving on by Herb Ruhs, MD
Bank runs and eavesdropping by Kathy Fisher
Another day at the hospital by Cassandra
Letter to the bank by Siskiyousis
Easy to forget by Vanekl

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