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Attacking Iran

by The Canadian       Monday, July 21, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

Discussions between the EU and Iran with US observation failed this week-end. New sanctions will follow in a couple of weeks. The end-game to war will now unfold. Just a few months I suspect; no more than 3.

The Canadian
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For weighing humans

by Mahdi Abdul Finkelstein       Monday, July 21, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

I re-watched the movie Duets on 46/Lifetime today. Some time I would love to see the uncensored DVD, and w/out commercials. It has a lot of impact and each re-watch imports different meanings. Plus the music/singing is excellent.

Don't know if you would dig it, but one of the main characters has a small break with reality and goes on the road doing Karaoke. Eventually he and a hitchhiker, who is an escaped prisoner, end up at the contest finals in Omaha. But his wife catches up with him there and her mind is totally blown by how far he has come/gone — he gives this little rant about tearing down consumer society and starting over, which made me laugh a lot given what is going on now (as consumers implode, right?). Eventually his friend saves him and he goes back to wifey, but he tells her he cannot go back to being the way he was because, "Now I sing."

My mind is a little blown too, I have to say. I am fairly well alienated, in the literal sense, probably as a result of having read so much sci-fi. Also because my contradictory beliefs and faiths are converging. For example, I asked one of the guys today if he has a scale. Then I felt compelled to qualify, "For weighing humans." Heheh.

I guess, if there is no eternal, universal life after human death, then aliens looking at our antics would probably be appreciative of our intensity of experience, and the meaning we attach to things relevant only to us.

Or, if there is some sort of lasting existence after physical termination then our peak experiences in life are grand foretastings of real reality — we play music full of chordings that resonate throughout us and those we interact with (I fail at words here.)

Mahdi Abdul Finkelstein
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The good, bad and ugly truth about Obama?

by Theo Lipschitz       Monday, July 21, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

The good news about Barack is that he is highly intelligent and not unwise. He is actually well-intentioned, and not an evil man. The bad news is that he is a middle-of-the-road consensus builder, who will consult with experts and lead the country along a middle course, but do nothing politically dangerous.  ... Click for more ... 

Theo Lipschitz
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Customer service, please

by SirJ       Monday, July 21, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

Re Scizzoring American Express by Sherri B.

Sherri better call customer service. There are 3 reasons I can think of why her card was declined. One would be fraud. If someone else used her card fraudulently, her attempted purchase could bring her balance over her credit limit. [see the paragraph below which discusses the possibility her credit balance has been lowered. A lowered limit in combination with a fraudulent transaction could also trigger a decline.]

The next reason would be the dollar amount of the purchase. If she doesn't use the card for anything but small purchases, then comes along and tries to make a large one, the computer programs that monitor for fraud will decline the purchase. It's out of the buying habit of that card holder and looks very suspicious. $700 could be a large enough purchase to trigger a fraud alert depending on her buying habits. This would be my hunch on why Sherri's card was declined. Customer Service can arrange to have her purchase pre-approved so that when she goes back to the retailer, she will know ahead of time that her card will be honored.

The last reason I can think of would be her credit limit has been reduced, obviously drastically and obviously without her knowing. The credit card companies are reducing card limits on many customers in an effort to reduce their own risk. Homeowners are being declined when they try to take out home equity mortgages because the lower market value of their homes makes lending to risky. This forces the homeowner to pay his debts with his credit card instead of a home equity loan. Bank failures would also cause a surge in credit card usage as depositors won't be able to access their deposits readily. This has already happened to some IndyMac depositors who wanted to deposit their funds at other banks. Some of the other banks flat out refused the deposits, others cited long waiting times until the FDIC cashier's checks would clear.

People will have to grab for their credit cards in these situations. Reducing people's credit limits will be done by a computer program, not on an individual basis. If you find your credit limit has been reduced, don't take it personally. You can contact customer service who will then take an individual look at your situation. Credit card banks charge vendors a percentage of every purchase, generally from 2 to 4 percent. They don't depend on cardholders carrying a positive balance causing them to pay interest. The banks make money as long as you use the card. About 1/3 of all credit card holders pay off their complete balance every month.

SirJ
You sound like someone who knows this stuff inside out and upside down.
Helen & Harry
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Rich and poor

by Herb Ruhs, MD       Monday, July 21, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

The poor are not poor because they don't know how to act like rich people. The poor are poor because the rich are rich. Being rich, the rich can and do control who has opportunity to increase their wealth. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer not because this is some sort of law of the universe, but because that is how a corrupt society works.

Herb Ruhs, MD
JS Magruder replies       unknownnews@inbox.com



Sudan (Darfur) and Zimbabwe for progressives and liberals

by Marie K.       Monday, July 21, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

As I see it, all progressives/liberals (I include myself) ought to have learned by now that wars are NOT the answer and that when there are conflicts, calling for resolution is the way to go.
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Marie K.
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Followers

by Chris M.       Monday, July 21, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

Re Authoritarians by SirJ

I read through this eBook a while ago and I agree with this passage.
 
"So as I said in the Introduction, social scientists have concentrated on understanding authoritarian followers, because the followers constitute the bigger problem in the long run and present the bigger mystery."

And this is the crux of it. Without followers, these people would be nothing. Now these followers may be authoritarian wanna-bes to an extent. However I also suspect that a lot has to do with their emotional comfort zone. The same as women (and to a lesser extent men) would rather stay in an abusive relationship or a small child will defend an abusive parent or even why an alcoholic would rather keep drinking than get sober.

It would be interesting to research the backgrounds of the followers, especially their parental relationships. I'll bet a large number of them were abused as children or spoiled or both. Interestingly enough, spoiling and abusing children more often than not results in the same personality disorder.

Chris M.
Doc Herb replies       unknownnews@inbox.com



Ignorance is literally burning my ass!

by MonkeyMan       Monday, July 21, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

Re My first experience in voter registration wasn't a good one by MonkeyMan

I am sooooooooo sunburned.

The same friend and I went out to do more voter registration Saturday. We were assigned to a box store. The manager didn't run us off, but would not let us station ourselves near the building (in the shade). So we spent two hours in the blazing GA sun and we got fried. From now on I will carry sunblock and a hat, maybe a cooler of drinks. But I can't believe that we were once again considered a nuisance to patrons. Every single person we interacted with was friendly and open. At least this time we were able to stay and register some folks.

I feel foolish and naive for not knowing just how much ignorance is out there. This has been very frustrating, rewarding and most educational. But of course, the more crap we get, the more determined we become to do whatever we can to reach out to get folks registered. Anyone else having any problems like this? Whew! Buy stock in Aloe gel because we are going through it!

MonkeyMan
I'd say you're showing more patriotism, registering voters in the hot sun, than I've seen from either Barack Obama and John McCain.
Helen & Harry

We need to work against McCain for sure, but we have local problems too that we need to vote out. If, of course, our votes are actually being counted. Maybe we can educate people along the way too. The voting booth is the one place in this country in which we are all exactly equal, or supposed to be...I know the electoral college makes that impossible.

I've switched to cocoa butter, I think I may live.

MonkeyMan
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Snip

by Sherri B.       Monday, July 21, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

Re Scizzoring American Express by Sherri B.

Usually I'd be obstinate but now I am happy to oblige them. They are gone from my world.

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Bank of China owns up to $20B of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac debt

This isn't even close to what we owe them.

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The theft of your vote is just a chip away
 
Excerpt: Are computerized voting machines a wide-open back door to massive voting fraud? The discussion has moved from the Internet to CNN, to UK newspapers, and the pages of THE NEW YORK TIMES. People are cautiously beginning to connect the dots, and the picture that seems to be emerging is troubling.

"A defective computer chip in the county's optical scanner misread ballots Tuesday night and incorrectly tallied a landslide victory for Republicans," announced the Associated Press in a story on Nov. 7, just a few days after the 2002 election. The story added, "Democrats actually won by wide margins."

Now I don't remember reading an article suggesting Democrats winning by large margins because I was banging my head against my desk in shock, but I guess it's a possibility.

Sherri B.
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Who says theater is dead?

by JR Mooneyham       Monday, July 21, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

Amber Alert system is more effective as theater than as a way to protect children

Increasingly, theater is all America is about. Karl Rove and Rupert Murdoch have grown fat, rich, and powerful filling American heads with pulp fiction.

JR Mooneyham  (www.jrmooneyham.com/)
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Ultimatum

by Angry Annie       Monday, July 21, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

Iran given two-week deadline to end the nuclear impasse

Sounds exactly like the ultimatum they gave Saddam Hussein in 2003.

Angry Annie
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Kucinich will investigate

by Marshall S.       Monday, July 21, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

Suicide epidemic grips Japan
 
Excerpt: Nearly 34,000 Japanese killed themselves last year, according to the Japanese national police.

A decade of weak economic growth and the unraveling of Japan's system of lifetime employment have left many middle-age and elderly men unemployed and in financial ruin. Among Japanese suicides, nearly 71% are men, more than 73% are 40 or older, and more than 57% are jobless.

Are we in the US next? Maybe there's a better place for us in the sky.

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Thousands of former UK troops now mercenaries in Iraq
 
Excerpt: Thousands of former British soldiers have signed up as mercenaries in Iraq since 2003, lured by the prospect of a tax-free £250 a day offered by "private military companies" making billions from the booming security industry.

A four-man ex-SAS team in Baghdad can command £2500 a day and live in the plushest villas in the most exclusive section of the Iraqi capital.

Comment: That's $500 and $5000 in US currency. Mercenaries can also commit any war crime, or any crime, actually, with impunity. There is no court to prosecute them.   Marshall S.    PERMANENT LINK 

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Kucinich to investigate police surveillance of protest groups

The government has been doing this for 100 years, or longer.

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New Hampshire will accept free oil from Chavez after all
 
Excerpt: Two years ago, New Hampshire refused to accept heating oil from Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, the pro-Castro U.S. critic who once called President Bush "the devil." But with fuel prices rising, well, free oil is free oil.

With the state's blessing, New Hampshire residents will be receiving some of the fuel this winter.

Comment: Hey Hugo, while you're handing out that free oil in New Hampshire, how about sending some free gas Texas way. That $4.00 gas is killing me.   Marshall S.    PERMANENT LINK 

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Opponents keep up fight against Bush library at SMU
 
Excerpt: Some church members have objected to putting the institute on church-owned land, saying that some Bush policies conflict with church teachings.

Comment: You mean the United Methodist Church is against torture? No, that couldn't be, or else why are they building a shrine to it and Bush at their college?   Marshall S.    PERMANENT LINK 


Marshall S.
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Dialogue  for
Monday, July 21, 2008 

Attacking Iran by The Canadian
For weighing humans
by Mahdi Abdul Finkelstein
The good, bad and
ugly truth about Obama?

by Theo Lipschitz
Customer service, please by SirJ
Rich and poor by Herb Ruhs, MD
Sudan (Darfur) and Zimbabwe
for progressives and liberals

by Marie K.
Followers by Chris M.
Ignorance is literally burning my ass! by MonkeyMan
Snip by Sherri B.
Who says theater is dead?
by JR Mooneyham
Ultimatum by Angry Annie
Kucinich will investigate by Marshall S.

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