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What's that smell?

by Sherri B.       Sunday, August 10, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

US warns Russia to halt Georgia attacks

That manure smell is getting stronger.

Sherri B.
Bush wears that scent as cologne.
Helen & Harry
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Back along the trail

by Herb Ruhs, MD       Sunday, August 10, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

Re The relevant struggle by Herb Ruhs, MD

Perhaps some references are in order. There is a lot written about the Paleolithic and Neolithic periods. Some of my favorites are The Prehistory of Sex: Four Million Years of Human Sexual Culture by Timothy L. Taylor (really good), The Chalice and the Blade by Riane Eisler, After the Ice by Mithen and After Eden by Kirkpatrick Sale (my favorite). The Primitivist school of anarchism, pretty much John Zerzan, is big into this as is Derrick Jensen.

Generally a good strategy if lost is to find one's way back along the trail till something recognizable shows up and you can start again from there. As far as I can tell, the last time humans really had it good -- good health, good food, good everything -- was in the prehistorical period. Some of the primitivists believe in an Amish sort of way, that the whole idea of technological advancement was a bad idea. I just think that several thousand years ago we lost our way.

We can have a technologically sophisticated future, but we must first deal with the problem of scaling up politics that worked just fine prehistorically in small bands, but now flounders with larger social units leading to many social maladies, the chief of which is full scale war.

In fact if I had a time machine I would go directly to 1600 BC on the island of Crete and join the Minoan civilization. They had running water and sanitary sewers, art literature, dance and economic equality. Read a description of life there and wonder if you too wouldn't like to join me in my time machine. Technically this was a literate, technologically sophisticated society with a system of writing called Linear A, which has yet to be deciphered fully. A society without war. A prosperous, technically advanced civilization with egalitarian values that crumbles only because of an enormous earthquake. Might be worth figuring out what they were doing right. Let's decipher that Linear A.

AUTHOR
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Assume it's a lie

by Angry Annie       Sunday, August 10, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

Military spokesman says US is not involved in Georgia-Russia conflict

From the article you can't tell whether anyone actually asked whether the US is involved, or whether the spokesman just felt it had to be preemptively denied. Either way, it's probably safe to assume it's a lie, and American military forces are fighting in Georgia.

Angry Annie
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New hack on Windows Vista

by Mary Ann M.       Sunday, August 10, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

(they utilize Java, ActiveX and .NET -- which I have avoided for years unless I have a specific necessary purpose...along with Javascript, images, and cookies... when I need to use something that requires functionality I normally don't permit, I turn on the functionality for that use, and then after I am done I turn it off, and erase everything from the caches. when you add this to the very recent DNS bug and consider the infinite number of "social engineering", physical intrusion and insider corruption, it is clear that the internet is total crap for uses which require security, like financial work and anything involving putting personal identifiers into a computer...to say nothing of government and DoD networks, which have been penetrated more times than Debbie when she did Dallas...)

Windows Vista security 'rendered useless' in tests
 
Excerpt: Two security researchers have developed a new technique that essentially bypasses all of the memory protection safeguards in the Windows Vista operating system, an advance that many in the security community say will have far-reaching implications not only for Microsoft, but also on how the entire technology industry thinks about attacks.

In a presentation at the Black Hat briefings, Mark Dowd of IBM Internet Security Systems (ISS) and Alexander Sotirov, of VMware Inc. will discuss the new methods they've found to get around Vista protections such as Address Space Layout Randomization(ASLR), Data Execution Prevention (DEP) and others by using Java, ActiveX controls and .NET objects to load arbitrary content into Web browsers.

By taking advantage of the way that browsers, specifically Internet Explorer, handle active scripting and .NET objects, the pair have been able to load essentially whatever content they want into a location of their choice on a user's machine.

For more:
Vista's security rendered completely useless

Mary Ann M.
Is there anything Microsoft does that they don't do crappy?
Helen & Harry
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To the letter

by SirJ       Sunday, August 10, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

Feds used wildly "aggressive tactics" against Ivins and family in anthrax probe
 
Excerpt: Before killing himself last week, Army scientist Bruce Ivins told friends that government agents had stalked him and his family for months, offered his son $2.5 million to rat him out and tried to turn his hospitalized daughter against him with photographs of dead anthrax victims.

Kinda makes me wonder if they paid for this letter.

I would expect the social worker who wrote this note would also know the FBI is investigating Ivins. Now, if I felt threatened by someone I knew who was being investigated by the FBI, I wouldn't be going to some dipshit court hoping for a restraining order. I'd call the FBI, who would in turn insist that I "cooperate" with their investigation. Being the good citizen that I am, I would follow their instructions to the err... letter.

Ivins can't be placed at the scene of the crime

The FBI has a slam dunk case Ivins was the anthrax killer. He had an obsession for years with the sorority located next to the mailbox where the anthrax letters were mailed. Oh, scratch that. The sorority isn't near the mailbox. Their warehouse is. He had an obsession with the warehouse next to the mailbox where the letters were mailed. Hmmm.. no, lets try this: He had an obsession for years with the mailbox where the anthrax letters were mailed located a mere 7 hours drive away! So, at 62, he hoped into his car and took a seven hour drive so he could spend a little quality time with a mailbox. Um hmmm... Sure.

SirJ
Looks more and more like the feds killed the wrong man, on purpose. Put it together with the increasingly well-documented claims in Suskind's book, and I start to hope again that the lies will pile up into a mountain so high even Brian Williams has to see it.
Helen & Harry
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Some serious mistakes

by JR Mooneyham       Sunday, August 10, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

National Academy of Science report shows psychiatric
illness increases several-fold after anthrax vaccination
 
Excerpt: In those who received 1-3 doses of vaccine, hospitalizations for affective psychosis were 4.95 times greater after vaccination than before receiving any anthrax vaccine. For other non-organic psychoses, the rate was 4.82 times higher. Hospitalizations for neurotic disorders were 2.63 times higher. Hospitalizations for personality disorders were 4.66 times higher. Hospitalizations for drug dependence were 5.64 times higher. Hospitalizations for adjustment reaction were 2.96 times higher. For depressive disorder, not otherwise classified, the rate was 2.76 times higher.

Flashback to 2004: Bush orders smallpox vaccine for military, himself

Note that some people thought Bush already mentally ill (or deficient) before he took that shot.

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Re Beating Krugman by JR Mooneyham

I see your point: sort of the similar issue some have brought up about impeachment of Bush: it would only unleash Cheney. Ouch!

Unfortunately, unless you've got a good way to keep the replacement friendly, some politicians must retain their current positions or else hurt us vote-wise with their absence. And in some cases there's also the possibility you'd rather keep someone like Feingold in the Senate for 18-24 years, rather than VP for only 4 or even 8. The margins in Congress are too small right now for good guys to do much without the cooperation of the President. And there's no guarantee they'll even remain this good after the election.

Wouldn't it be horrible if Obama won and actually tried to be more liberal than he acts now, but was foiled at every turn by a Republican Supreme Court and Republican majorities in both House and Senate? He could end up a lame duck the entire time he was there. Our first black President, metaphorically kept standing in a closet his whole (single, because disappointing) term.

Progressives are way too optimistic at the moment, what with the mainstream media under the firm control of bastards. And (in my opinion) Obama making some serious mistakes by blurring the lines between himself and McCain and Bush...the vast majority of those Republican voters he's courting wouldn't vote for him in a million years. Even if he renounced parties and officially became a Republican. So Obama's throwing away a valuable chunk of Democratic votes in a vain effort to attain the impossible...thereby helping Rove et al make the election closer than it should be.

And let's not forget: it's standard Republican operating procedure to make elections close enough in reality so that they can then fraudulently tip a small margin of the votes to put them over the top. In 2004 they merely underestimated how far to turn the dial, because they were too cocky. Now we've got a cocky Obama...

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He's getting a ticket

This calls up an idea for one wicked prank or revenge trick...just install the proper sticker on an unwitting victim's car...hmmm... a spin-off of this idea would be a viral marketing scheme which inspired folks to plaster some clever sticker you had your domain name stamped on in lots of places...

JR Mooneyham  (www.jrmooneyham.com/)
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My offer is nothing

by Chris M.       Sunday, August 10, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

Group touts reward against GOP donors to independent efforts
 
Excerpt: The mailings will also include an announcement of a $100,000 reward for anyone who provides information that leads to the criminal conviction or fines of at least $10,000 for the violation of campaign finance laws or other statutes by a conservative outside group.

The reward is emblematic of the strong-arm tactics envisioned by Tom Matzzie, a veteran liberal political operative who is running the new group.

Accountable America is planning to disseminate through its Web site, media outlets and potentially on television information about major conservative donors, with the goal of intimidating others considering giving to such groups to stay on the sidelines.

"'Senator, my offer is this: Nothing.' In that one moment, Michael Corleone says that all corruption is equal -- that there is no separation between politics and gangsterism."       -- The Freshman
....enough said !

Chris M.
I saw THE FRESHMAN years ago, and remember it fondly but not well. But I think I get your point.
Helen & Harry

The quote is from his film professor, early on in the movie.

Chris M.
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In a word

by Wig       Sunday, August 10, 2008         PERMANENT LINK  

US troops 'inadvertently' kill four Afghan women, child

Inadvertently?

Wig
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Dialogue  for
Sunday, August 10, 2008 

What's that smell? by Sherri B.
Back along the trail by Herb Ruhs, MD
Assume it's a lie by Angry Annie
New hack on Windows Vista by Mary Ann M.
To the letter by SirJ
Some serious mistakes by JR Mooneyham
My offer is nothing by Chris M.
In a word by Wig

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