Try reading, instead of just "looking around."

We don't often discuss such things, because we're not delusional. We're not stupid enough to believe that hoards of bogeymen are going to bomb, enslave, convert and kill us all, and then refuse to sell us oil. We're not cowering in the corner like you and your family, crapping our pants over every scary story anyone recites on TV, and handing over all of America's freedoms one by one without any fight at all.

Instead, we're defending America from people who would truly destroy it -- people like you.

Hope that answers your question?

Not since about third grade have I cared about insults from strangers, so we're not crying, just chuckling.

I care about America, though, and you describe yourself as an "American Patriot," so I wonder -- have you noticed that thousands of Americans are being slaughtered for nothing in Iraq? Do you care about that, dear patriot? Have you noticed that America's President is setting up a dictatorship where the Constitution once was? Does that trouble you in the slightest? Does it matter to you that every principle America allegedly stands for is being trampled by treason in the White House?

If you give a damn about your country, I would politely urge you to snap out of your stupor and join the battle to save this nation.

Or, if all you care about is e-mailing strangers to tell them that they're "lame", well then, I guess your work here is done.

Ah, and you're so very, very reasonable and open to discussion.

No, I guess you don't need to say any more. I've read your email twice and it looks like plain ordinary Jew-hating to me. Holler if I've misunderstood. But if that's your point, Pittershawn, I'm disappointed in you, and uninterested in any further chat on the subject.

I like you, and I'm usually willing to take people at their word. But if Columbus + Jewish + genocide and "Need I say more?" isn't coded Jew-hating, what is the "more" you needn't say?

Christopher Columbus is fairly well-known, as is everything in the single sentence you snipped from Encyclopedia Britannica -- except his Jewish heredity (which was news to me). Surely you didn't send that excerpt to point out that he was Spanish, or that his parents lived in Genoa ...

Claims of anti-Semitism are often used as an unfair defense to cripple criticisms of Israel. Like anybody who criticizes Israel, I've had that one hurled at me, and it pisses me off, and I'll always call it for the canard it is.

I also know when a wisecrack crosses the line and becomes bigoted -- I know it 'cuz I do it myself sometimes. Like, right after a city bus ride with a bunch of street-talking ass-crack-showing boombox-playing black teenagers ... I can't tell whether those kids are genuine stupid as a stump or just playing stupid due to peer pressure from their stupid, stupid friends, but as I grumble about it I'm sure I sometimes cross the line and say something racist. Hell, maybe I just did.

So I'm not playing all holier than thou, not trying to smother you with a guilt trip, not telling you you're a horrid person or anything.

But jeepers creepers. The note you sent was just a jab at Jews in general. Tell me that's not what it was?

Maybe you expect a point-by-point response, but I'm not going to spend hours and hours chatting about this. Bigotry is wrong. The end.

And of course, some of your points are perfectly reasonable, and you're very intelligent, so I think you know what's valid in your comments, and what's veiled. You've had this argument before, perhaps, and perhaps you enjoy it? I don't. I'm getting old and impatient, Pittershawn, so ... is this almost over? The more words you type about Jews, the greater the passion you put into your feelings about Jews, the less point I see in making any response.

PS. Sometimes I use the term "Jew-hater," because "anti-Semite" is a misnomer (Arabs being as Semitic as Jews). And I'm sure I could've been nicer about it, but I also use the term "Jew-hater" to describe someone who doesn't like Jews.

Of course, we'll be delighted to honor your request -- there's no need to say another word about it. Please. There are thousands of things more important to me than your opinions about Jews, or your hurt feelings at having your opinions about Jews disputed.

We haven't heard from or sent anything to Pittershawn Palmer in almost a week, so we're flattered that Pittershawn took the trouble to type us this note.

It makes me think back more than a few years, to a time when I lived on the back side of a run-down apartment building downtown, with just one small window that offered a view of three dumpsters on the ground below. The dumpsters were always full and overflowing with trash generated from a restaurant and other businesses in the building's first floor. On muggy or hot days the stench from the dumpsters was remarkable, a horrid scent that floated right in through my window if it was open.

Thanks for closing the window, Pittershawn.

We hate people who hate freedom, and we have little patience for people who think that's silly.

What methodology are you using to collect your comprehensive database of rectal aperture measurements?

Since you've called my wife and I liars, could you kindly point out a lie we've told? Just one example will suffice, will establish that we're liars, so please show us a fact we've cited anywhere on our website that isn't factual.

We're asking politely, and waiting patiently.

How sad that your world view is so shallow, your hold on reality so tenuous, that merely asking a question about 9/11 leaves you with nothing but a threat of violence ... a threat no doubt as empty as your head.

With a quick Google search, we see that the same author has sent similar angry notes to The Boston Phoenix and The Exile in Moscow, Russia. So thank you, biggitshredder -- we're honored to be hated by anyone who hates these fine publications.

And you're well-balanced?

You make your assumptions, I'll make mine. I assume you're lying when you say you've read our comments on that page, since the comments written and published there directly refute your rather dull point.

The alleged news of Sen Obama's childhood lessons in a madrasa were shown within hours to be yet another lie from right-wing liars. Of course, this lie has accomplished its intended purpose, because the liars know their audience -- that's you, Joel. They know you're too stupid to check facts or consider any information from non-ideological sources, so you and other stupid right-wingers will be repeating this lie for years, for decades to come. This is the goal of the lie, to pollute public discourse and thus degrade democracy. I am certain you will continue doing your part.

We'd be delighted to chat politics with someone who disagrees, someone who has half a dozen brain cells and an ability to form intelligent thoughts -- is that you? You seem to be smart enough to author several hate mails to us, using several different names and phony email addresses in recent weeks. Are you smart enough to sustain your half of an intelligent discussion?

I rather doubt it. For one thing, it's immediately obvious that you've never read anything on our website. If you had -- if you'd spent even five minutes poking around Unknown News before offering your flamboyantly ignorant opinions, you'd have noticed that nothing we've ever written or published suggests we've ever thought anything heroic of Barack Obama. We missed his allegedly brilliant speech at the 2004 Democratic convention, and we abandoned all hope for the fellow's integrity when he spoke at fundraisers for his fellow milquetoast moderate Joe Lieberman.

So we've abandoned hope for any integrity from you ... but perhaps your next note will surprise us, by offering evidence that you've given something, anything, a little thought? I don't expect it from you, but I'd love to be mistaken.

Also, please note, it's Barack not Barak, Hussein not Hussane, Obama not Osama, Muslim not muslum, tutored not tuttored, madrasa not matrassa, jihadist not jihadest, and when it's used as a contraction it's who's not whose.

That's a complaint we hear frequently, from stupid people. We wouldn't claim to be particularly bright, but my husband and I are Mr and Mrs Einstein compared to someone too dim to click the obvious links to mainstream professional journalists under virtually all the news and numbers anywhere on our website.

Also, it's credibility, not credability, there's not thier's, and you'd flunk a grade school test on grammar and punctuation.

If you're tired of our "wining and stupidity," are there no other websites you could visit?

Let me ask seriously, as cordially and respectfully as possible: Have you thought about any of this? Do you give a fig about America, about dead soldiers, a drowned city, and countless lies, laws broken, and the Constitution trashed by this President, or are you just repeating some things you heard on Rush Limbaugh's show?

It's true, America has not been attacked for the five years and a few months (not yet six years) since September 11, 2001. And the nation was also not attacked for the five years before September 11, 2001 ... or for the five years before that ... or for the fifty years before that.

If the one President who allowed a major attack on American soil since Pearl Harbor is your hero for allowing only one attack on American soil, does that make Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush the Elder, and Clinton superheroes, for allowing no attacks?

Further, while Bush often states that defending America is his highest priority, that is much more the military's function -- and that is not at all what he is sworn to do. The Presidential oath compels him not to defend America, but to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." He seems to find new ways to violate that oath seven days a week, but he's your hero?

Ah, but you're tired of our "wining and stupidity" ...

There's been a complete change of topic between your first email and your second -- almost as if you can't defend your earlier comments. And you've made numerous assumptions about what we believe, all without citing anything we've actually said -- almost as if you're responding to a straw man instead of our website.

If you choose to reply to this, might I suggest that you actually reply to this? In other words, please, type a response to something we've written, instead of merely sending more conservative platitudes and generalities.

Your clichés come closest to correct when you say we believe "America is the fountainhead of evil the world over." I'd clarify that by 'America' we mean American foreign policy, and I'd substitute "a" for "the" -- American foreign policy is a fountainhead of evil the world over. Quote me on that, and you'll have stumbled across a fundamental truth you'll no doubt deny.

We'd welcome your feedback if you'll kindly take the trouble of reading and responding to something on our website. From your comments, it's obvious that you haven't.

You are correct, though, about our dream: We'd love to see Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Chertoff, Gonzales, Ashcroft, and Powell in prison, where they belong -- but I'd stipulate that they deserve fair trials at the Hague, and it should be a humane prison, not at all the sort of kangaroo trials and hellish gulags they've established.

You tell me it's only lies and bullsh*t, so I will cordially and sincerely ask: What did we get wrong?

We're waiting patiently for your answer... and we'll still be waiting in a month, won't we?

For the second time I'll ask politely, what did we get wrong? Please, point out just one "made up news" story, and we will take your criticism seriously.

Well sir, we tried and tried again, but strike three, you're out.

No, ma'am, we have no swastikas here. The website reflects our opinions -- that's the glory of the First Amendment -- but we work hard to ensure that any facts referenced are indeed factual. If you'll kindly cite just one of the "made up allegations" you say our web site is full of, I'll cheerfully provide the documentation to prove it's true.